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JKR and more bomb threats

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achillestoes · 02/07/2022 06:59

JKR posted on Twitter that a user of another account posted her address, a picture of a pipe bomb and a handbook for making bombs.

If you are defending these people, you are defending terrorism now. It’s incredible how low they will go and still try to claim the moral high ground (although I suppose that’s space and they can’t really help thinking they should have all the space?).

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PearlClutch · 03/07/2022 21:53

You know, the more '#bekind', the more death threats. It's an odd correlation.

PearlClutch · 03/07/2022 21:52

YY Artichoke.

I'm also taken aback by how there often seems to be an inverse proportion of some kind going on by how much someone lavishly describes themselves as 'kind, loving, fair, wants to help others' and goes on about their wonderful selfless personality - and how horrible they actually are in interpersonal interactions.

Artichokeleaves · 03/07/2022 21:22

I suspect rather like safeguarding, many such courses are 'time served' rather than any kind of demonstration of learning and competence being required. a hamster could be certified in many courses if it was registered on arrival and collected a certificate on the way out.

This really needs to change.

Conflictedunicorn · 03/07/2022 21:01

I think he may have failed the course. Or misunderstood what he was supposed to do 😂

PearlClutch · 03/07/2022 20:19

'End ISBA official Twitter revealed M was one of its team members certified by Ohana Zero Suicide in crisis awareness training. Just prior to deactivating his Twitter account, M abused women critical of gender ideology and, in at least one archived instance, suggested a feminist commit suicide.'

That's a novel way of putting crisis awareness training into practise.

Abhannmor · 03/07/2022 19:38

He is against ' Image Based Sexual Abuse ' especially revenge porn! This young lad is terribly confused. Typical Toytown revolutionary from UCD. Probably not dangerous but I hope he gets at least a caution.

Conflictedunicorn · 03/07/2022 19:30

Oh @MishyJDI looks like it was a trans person after all, we weren’t just making assumptions. Wonder how the traliban will spin this. I bet ‘not really a trans person’.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 03/07/2022 19:24

Twat behind bomb threats unmasked & of course he’s some kind of social warrior.

Misogynistic twat unmasked

Artichokeleaves · 03/07/2022 12:45

I have never, in my whole fucking life, heard anything as abhorrent as politicians saying rape victims or women who'd experienced domestic violence should not talk about the experience because it was 'weaponising their trauma'. I'll never get over that, I don't think.

Quite.

It's at that point, it becomes clear that all this airy fairy exotic language is nothing good, nothing progressive and should not be tolerated, and the deal is off.

You cannot engage reasonably with a person who is unreasonable. You cannot play games involving this power imbalance with someone who can talk the hind leg off a donkey trying to convince you to co operate nicely with being abused.

Two minutes on the relationship board nails exactly what this is and women here recognise it. It's time for the Freedom Programme, for Lundy Bancroft, for strong boundaries and a world of no, because women on MN get abusive behaviour that comes dressed up like this. Here we teach other women to get it too. We teach them about the scripts and the techniques, and how to not enable it. And this is primarily why they hate us so very much.

Beefcurtains79 · 03/07/2022 10:17

PearlClutch · 03/07/2022 10:02

It's worse than that.

Women don't even need to state an opinion, say anything about biology or facts or anything as definite as that. We're just not to ever point out anything that is inconvenient to the male-centering narrative.

If a woman (JKR) calls out the death/rape threats, she is 'punching down' on self expression.

If a woman points out the harm being done to her, she is 'weaponising her trauma'.

I have never, in my whole fucking life, heard anything as abhorrent as politicians saying rape victims or women who'd experienced domestic violence should not talk about the experience because it was 'weaponising their trauma'. I'll never get over that, I don't think.

No, it’s not something I thought I’d ever hear in my lifetime.

PearlClutch · 03/07/2022 10:02

maeveiscurious · 03/07/2022 08:02

This is the clearest explanation of what is going on I have read

It's worse than that.

Women don't even need to state an opinion, say anything about biology or facts or anything as definite as that. We're just not to ever point out anything that is inconvenient to the male-centering narrative.

If a woman (JKR) calls out the death/rape threats, she is 'punching down' on self expression.

If a woman points out the harm being done to her, she is 'weaponising her trauma'.

I have never, in my whole fucking life, heard anything as abhorrent as politicians saying rape victims or women who'd experienced domestic violence should not talk about the experience because it was 'weaponising their trauma'. I'll never get over that, I don't think.

Beefcurtains79 · 03/07/2022 09:52

MargaritaPie · 02/07/2022 20:21

I think my posts have made it very clear any threats are acceptable.

Whoops. Not acceptable I meant.

No, you got it right the first time Margarita.

MyVisionsComeFromSoup · 03/07/2022 08:43

On the plus side, this thread has reminded me to pre-order the new Strike book, so JKR 1: TRAs 0

maeveiscurious · 03/07/2022 08:03

MishyJDI · 02/07/2022 07:28

How do any of you know a trans person is behind this? Talk about jump to conclusions and condemnation. Let the evidence be pursued and justice follow, rather than piling in….

Why would any one else care? I'm sick of reading of the excusers and #bekind

maeveiscurious · 03/07/2022 08:02

Conflictedunicorn · 02/07/2022 07:22

We are told ‘both sides of this debate are as bad as each other’. So where are the bomb threats and rape threats from the other side? This is where the whole ‘transpeople are the most oppressed ever’ comes in. If a woman states biological facts, taking into account the oppressed status of transpeople, it is violent abuse. If a transperson sends a rape or death threat, it is a revolutionary act against the oppressing class. It is why they are so obsessed with the narrative. Their tactics do not work without it.

This is the clearest explanation of what is going on I have read

TheWeeDonkey · 03/07/2022 07:59

Conflictedunicorn · 02/07/2022 20:50

So hold on, I thought we were all supposed to #bekind? Or is that only women? If I identify as a transwoman am I allowed to issue death threats with no consequences?

First rule of misogyny innit. Women are responsible for men's actions. Also second rule, women saying no to men is a hate crime.

Just because a male person transitions to live as a woman doesn't necessarily mean he gives up the rights and privileges of male behaviour.

I don't make up these rules it's just how it is.

Conflictedunicorn · 03/07/2022 07:38

PlantSpider · 02/07/2022 22:03

It’s interesting how it’s really clear which class of people need to be kind, isn’t it?

Oh yes. I think there used to be a name for them… womb..wom….wim… women, that’s the one!

PlantSpider · 02/07/2022 22:03

Conflictedunicorn · 02/07/2022 20:50

So hold on, I thought we were all supposed to #bekind? Or is that only women? If I identify as a transwoman am I allowed to issue death threats with no consequences?

It’s interesting how it’s really clear which class of people need to be kind, isn’t it?

Conflictedunicorn · 02/07/2022 20:50

achillestoes · 02/07/2022 20:47

JKR should do a 21st century Hogwarts series. Cast new actors and actresses as professors from the previous generation. Let Robbie Coltrane come back.

I’d watch that!

Conflictedunicorn · 02/07/2022 20:50

So hold on, I thought we were all supposed to #bekind? Or is that only women? If I identify as a transwoman am I allowed to issue death threats with no consequences?

achillestoes · 02/07/2022 20:48

Artist... zero power... allowed to break the law without consequence - no, delete that last bit.

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achillestoes · 02/07/2022 20:47

JKR should do a 21st century Hogwarts series. Cast new actors and actresses as professors from the previous generation. Let Robbie Coltrane come back.

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PearlClutch · 02/07/2022 20:45

From that fucking awful article in 'Politico':

'...in April, Rowling responded to an amateur music video with lyrics “J.K. hope you fit in a hearse” by tweeting a public complaint — eliciting a howl of protest from the original poster (whose video was taken down by Twitter).

“The most powerful TERF in the world (billionaire, lives in castle, 14.1M followers) sent a mob after me (broke, lives with mom, 1.1k followers),” tweeted Faye Fadem, the bedroom producer behind the video and a trans woman. “She made a conscious choice to target me because she felt threatened by a young trans woman expressing herself. If u want to come in here and say ‘but u did death threat’ I’m an artist with 0 power expressing myself.”

Last year, Rowling accused three trans activists of “doxxing” her after they posted a photo of their protest in front of her Edinburgh mansion that included her address — easily discovered information. The activists took so much heat from Rowling’s followers that they deleted the photo — and their accounts.

Trans-rights advocates say Rowling, a self-professed expert at monster creation, is using those skills to whip up a false narrative that casts trans people as a threat to women and their rights.'

There you go. Death threats are 'expressing myself'. And to speak up if someone issues you a death threat is 'monster creation' whipping up a 'false narrative'.

Newsflash: It's not 'false narrative' to say that someone issuing threats is ... a threat.

Conflictedunicorn · 02/07/2022 20:37

ThickCutSteakChips · 02/07/2022 20:32

The fact that JKR just will not shut the fuck up like women are supposed to really upsets some people doesn't it?

She was supposed to write a grovelling apologetic post, begging for forgiveness and promising to educate herself around about 2 whole years ago now, wasn't she?

But she is still here, and she isn't shutting up.

Deal with it.

I love JK. She is my inspiration. I think it confuses them because she won’t back down, and that encourages a lot of other people to not back down. Personally I hope she does a sequel to Harry potter, and only casts people who haven’t vilified her. I think that’s why Warner did an about face. If she exerts her rights, she can pull all merch and advertising.

PearlClutch · 02/07/2022 20:34

The person referred to had about 20 followers, JKR has 13.9M

the number of Twitter followers a person has has absolutely zero bearing on how dangerous/powerful/vulnerable they are. None.

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