Is Pride really just turning in to one big kink fest?

+You don't have to like him, just appreciate the nature of someone prepared to challenge and question things*

lawrence fox changed his twitter profile pic to an image of a swastika made from pride flags.

The link in the OP was to Toronto. I've also seen similar posted from New York and Seattle. Here, we've seen the (clothed) pup thing but with strong associations of "kink" ie something you don't do in public.

There is no other community event that is associated with public nudity or adult sexual activity. Here, exposing children to adult sexuality is abuse:

"Involves forcing or enticing a child or young person to take part in sexual activities, not necessarily involving a high level of violence, whether or not the child is aware of what is happening. The activities may involve physical contact, including assault by penetration (for example, rape or oral sex) or non-penetrative acts such as masturbation, kissing, rubbing and touching outside of clothing. They may also include non-contact activities, such as involving children in looking at, or in the production of, sexual images, watching sexual activities, encouraging children to behave in sexually inappropriate ways, or grooming a child in preparation for abuse. Sexual abuse can take place online, and technology can be used to facilitate offline abuse. Sexual abuse is not solely perpetrated by adult males. Women can also commit acts of sexual abuse, as can other children."
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/942454/Workinggtogethertoosafeguardchildrenninteragencyyguidance.pdf

I would hazard a guess that Canada and the States have definitions like that as well.

I agree with PP that one day we will look back and shake our heads.

Not clicking the link because it sounds grim, but FWIW, DP and I just took our DD to our local Pride, and it was absolutely lovely. I was genuinely in tears as all of the different local schools went past with their banners. It's amazing to think what a change in society there has been, that that can happen. And loads of couples with their children, as well.

I have heard bad things about some Pride events, but the one we went to was really moving and affirming and everything it's meant to be. So there is hope.

Pride comes before a fall

And I think it is literally happening. Because Pride is now so linked to commerce with every company under the sun waving their pride flag for the dollars, I think they will reassess after the excess of this year, and they will back off and the money and coverage will be gone.

I'd seen that clip of that pervert flashing children already and obviously there's no pride in being a sex offender. Not last time I looked anyway.

I will add I am amazed to see a vaguely positive comment about Laurence Fox on here. I actually think he has been treated appallingly - kicked out of his job and rada because he dared to say that the press weren't being racist to Meghan Markle. Anyway, not the point of the thread, but people like LF have been vilified for adding flavour to debate and standing up to the leftist bigotry and I think the world is a poorer place without people like him, who challenge the groupthink and the latest cultural phenomenons that everyone is caught up in. He will probably have been one of the first to openly criticise Pride and obviously called a bigot homophobic pig etc. You don't have to like him, just appreciate the nature of someone prepared to challenge and question things.

I am obviously referring to a naked man, jumping up and down in a rabbit mask in front on children in a parade- NOT the concept of pride which I think has been subverted from its original aims by some

i read the thread title and though oh they’re talking about that weird self fucking penis/vagina costume…

apparently not ….

I genuinely think this will continue to ramp up, increasingly uninhibited, until even the most "rainbow washed" corporation will take a proper look at it and actually see where it's headed. I can't see anything but a massive crash in funding brought on by some sort of huge scandal changing it now. What will it take? I don't even want to think about that, but I suspect children will have to be involved.

This is so true ^

I don't know, but surely to goodness even in these strange times an unflaccid penis would ring alarm bells with the attendant police.

Quite obviously, no, it isn't. What we need now is for lesbians, gay men and bisexual people to speak up and say 'Not in our name'.

No gay person I know attends Pride now. It's been co-opted by corporations and perverts.

This is what I find so strange and backwards looking. I was under the impression that back in the day people who were homosexual or lesbian were campaigning to be treated like heterosexual people - you know the boring everyday kind who keep their private sexual preferences to themselves. It makes me think that all those people must now be so upset that this is presenting them as being fetishists or exhibitionists rather than your average Joe. I don't have a lot of gay friends but do have a gay man in my extended family who is married with kids and is very much your average Joe. It does him no favours to have Pride looking like it does these days.

Yep.

Stopped attending about 5 years ago when it became obvious that it was being used as a vehicle for fetishists getting a kick out wearing gimp masks and a thong in public.

There will probably be a netflix special about it.

I have two close family members who are gay men. Both used to love Pride, got involved every year. They wouldn't touch it with a bargepole now.

Pride is an embarrassment now. The LGB community is being forgotten about, it's all about the T and Q and every other letter of the alphabet.

This display of nudity in public is not ok.....any random male prancing down the street like this would be arrested. Why does he get away with it.

I'm so over it. I received an email from our diversity and inclusion team to celebrate pride month today. Had a glossary of terms attached definining such gems as drag queen and cisgender. Another attachment was a document of flags. It informed me that the pink in the trans flag represents girls, the blue for boys and the white for everyone in between. Why exactly did I need this email in my busy day?! Why the fuck would I care? Sorry. Needed to get that off my chest.

The LGB people should be absolutely irate with this perversion of what Pride should be about.
It's not about gays and lesbians and bisexual people being proud anymore, it's just about exposing kids and non consenting adults to sexual fetishes, the more shocking, the better it seems.

Why do blokes always think the world wants to see their tiny flaccid penis? This is akin to flashing, no one fucking asked to see that. Especially not little kids.

There's some odd stuff happening. I was looking at Skiptons, first ever pride events. So far we've had a make and take , which seems to have attracted a handful of under fives..... drawing symbols they can't possibly understand (like the trans squiggle). There's then a get ready for pride where people over 12 can make new friends to go to the pride event with...... which I guess could be good but they'd need to be careful of the ages, safeguarding etc. The event itself sounds like a nice summer fete. I wonder where the council got the funding from?

High Wycombes event features four drag Queens, it's a totally woman free line up, by the looks of it. Pride! Yey!

I find it revolting. Have done for a long time.
It's the blatant disregard for children I find bizarre. It also includes those vile "story time" with a drag queen things that have been happening recently. It's opening children up to a whole sexual sphere that there is absolutely no need for them to know about.
Yes, if this were to happen anywhere else but in a "pride" march it would considered weird at best and vulgar and inappropriate at worst.
What I want to know is - what's the "pride" in? I'm not talking about homosexuality at all.
People who take their kids to these "events" are baffling.

Sex offender, plain and simple. Shame on the rainbow-striped police for allowing this.