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Another go woke go broke - McCains

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Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 09:41

twitter.com/McCainUKIE/status/1541406087324246019?s=20&t=pug-ahmQqiD5mqyyLzLdAw

Who the hell in adland thinks insulting or mocking the people who buy your products is a winning strategy?

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Datun · 28/06/2022 12:12

Who cares if that person is a celebrity in their niche world of drag? They're not a celebrity to anyone else.

Just a male in a dress talking about their 'big knockers' as a marketing campaign for kids' food!

Apart from how ridiculously inappropriate it is, who the bloody hell are they talking to?

As the op says " I don't want to explain why a man in a wig is talking about his "knockers" to my 6 year old".

Jeez.

MenopausalMe · 28/06/2022 12:05

BootsAndRoots · 28/06/2022 11:32

I find the whole debate around drag interesting. It's been quite mainstream from the 50s, Lily Savage did BBC1 Saturday night Blankety Blank in the early 2000s. It's not subversive or ground-breaking (as many younger generations like to think it is).

RuPaul's drag race isn't suitable for children (I've watched some of the US version) and there's a lot of swearing, innuendo etc that isn't suitable for children. I think people like to announce that their children watch it because it makes them seem progressive. It's like Pride where you have people wearing bondage et al and people think that because it's got the LGBT label it's suitable for children.

This drag queen (like all of the UK RuPaul's contestants) seem second rate, and I think McCain's think they're being really progressive when in fact it just seems like 1970s basic humour instead.

Drag is supposed to be a bit of a laugh, drag beauty pageants are a subversive take on the Miss World beauty pageants, but to think of it as anything more (like a complex discussion on gender identity in a 2020s context) is pushing it.

Paul O’Grady was respectful to women in his Lily Savage sets, it didn’t come across as mocking or demeaning women

MenopausalMe · 28/06/2022 12:03

That’s grim, I’m really really fed up of males mocking my breasts, just weary of it. Mocking like this in adverts gets picked up by men in the streets and leads to increased harassment.

The bag of smiley faces in the freezer right now will be the last

timeisnotaline · 28/06/2022 11:44

It doesn’t seem at all woke to me, more 30 years out of date. But I have no idea who baga chipz is, so 🤷‍♀️. I do like dame Edna though, she’s always been very clever. And Barry Humphries is not at all confused as to whether he’s male or female.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/06/2022 11:41

I do feel rather grieved by this. For the last few weeks, the company's adverts for their work making grants to families with disabled children have kept coming up when I use twitter. As I'm easily swayed and easily parted with my money, I'd been buying McCains chips again over supermarket own brand potato products.

Couldn't they have just kept doing tweets like that?

BootsAndRoots · 28/06/2022 11:35

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 28/06/2022 11:08

Lots of things were very popular recently that would go down like a lead balloon now (and the creators have subsequently apologised for). Little Britain. Bo Selecta.

Programmes like Little Britain actually predicted the future quite well. Perhaps now the humour is too close to the bone to be considered funny?

(Looking at Daffyd and Emily).

BootsAndRoots · 28/06/2022 11:32

I find the whole debate around drag interesting. It's been quite mainstream from the 50s, Lily Savage did BBC1 Saturday night Blankety Blank in the early 2000s. It's not subversive or ground-breaking (as many younger generations like to think it is).

RuPaul's drag race isn't suitable for children (I've watched some of the US version) and there's a lot of swearing, innuendo etc that isn't suitable for children. I think people like to announce that their children watch it because it makes them seem progressive. It's like Pride where you have people wearing bondage et al and people think that because it's got the LGBT label it's suitable for children.

This drag queen (like all of the UK RuPaul's contestants) seem second rate, and I think McCain's think they're being really progressive when in fact it just seems like 1970s basic humour instead.

Drag is supposed to be a bit of a laugh, drag beauty pageants are a subversive take on the Miss World beauty pageants, but to think of it as anything more (like a complex discussion on gender identity in a 2020s context) is pushing it.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 28/06/2022 11:28

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The reason I don't go. Its such dated misogynistic non-comedy and the industry seems content to push the more fetishism side of Drag into spaces for children.

Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 11:28

even if the content was totally vanilla

If the content is not 'vanilla', its not suitable to advertise a food marketed at children.

CandyLeBonBon · 28/06/2022 11:25

It's like Dick Emery and his 1970s humour has been raised from the dead. This type of sexist Schtick should really stay firmly in the past where it belongs. It's not the drag so much as the fucking regressive sexist 'humour'

RockaLock · 28/06/2022 11:19

Whilst I did not enjoy the video at all, I am very much enjoying the Twitter comments!

Belovedfool · 28/06/2022 11:15

I feel like I've stepped back in time....

GrinAndVomit · 28/06/2022 11:11

“Gotta have big knockers” on a product aimed at children?

No, thank you.

That ratio is beautiful. Currently over 8k views but only 6 likes. French kiss

Niteandday · 28/06/2022 11:10

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SheWoreYellow · 28/06/2022 11:09

CupidStunt22 · 28/06/2022 10:55

The woke part is that if you (rightly) complain about it, you're a bigoted transphobe TERF.

Not if you complain to the ASA.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 28/06/2022 11:08

Lots of things were very popular recently that would go down like a lead balloon now (and the creators have subsequently apologised for). Little Britain. Bo Selecta.

Niteandday · 28/06/2022 11:07

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Justthisonceharold · 28/06/2022 11:06

Phos · 28/06/2022 11:02

Have you missed how popular Ru Paul's Drag Race and all the international incarnations are right now? I don't watch them myself as it's not my thing but it's obviously not going the same way as blackface.

The black and white minstrels were popular.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 28/06/2022 11:04

Have you seen their TiKtok with clips of BC?

Moj1t0 · 28/06/2022 11:03

The twitter thread is a thing of beauty, though!

Phos · 28/06/2022 11:02

Staynow · 28/06/2022 10:11

I can't remember the last time I saw either on tv, must be a good ten years which is where they belong, in the past. Right along with blackface and people mimicking black people, insulting them and reducing them to stereotypes. People thought that was funny at the time too, fortunately now we know better. Hopefully you'll catch up soon.

Have you missed how popular Ru Paul's Drag Race and all the international incarnations are right now? I don't watch them myself as it's not my thing but it's obviously not going the same way as blackface.

Justthisonceharold · 28/06/2022 11:01

Don't let your 6 year old watch Drag Race then.

Absolutely no chance, why would anyone do that?

FemmeNatal · 28/06/2022 11:00

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 09:49

Don't let your 6 year old watch Drag Race then. For me it was a great way to bond with dd when we watched it via zoom party during lockdown.

I find it funny, you don't so don't watch it.

It’s no different to blackface.

oakleaffy · 28/06/2022 10:59

Trying to cash in on the current trend for men dressing up as women.
The ''Knockers'' comment is a bit off for kids, why is a scary looking bloke doing this?
Bit of an own goal.

Not a fan of drag though.

CupidStunt22 · 28/06/2022 10:55

Staynow · 28/06/2022 10:08

Men pretending to be awful caricatures of women?? Women reduced to body parts including 'knockers' 'so big you could park a bus between them'?? I'm missing how any of that could possibly be woke.

The woke part is that if you (rightly) complain about it, you're a bigoted transphobe TERF.