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Another go woke go broke - McCains

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Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 09:41

twitter.com/McCainUKIE/status/1541406087324246019?s=20&t=pug-ahmQqiD5mqyyLzLdAw

Who the hell in adland thinks insulting or mocking the people who buy your products is a winning strategy?

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WellThatsMeScrewed · 28/06/2022 13:47

Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 13:38

Why do they have to make these adverts for products primarily marketed at children?

Why do they have to make these adverts. Full Stop.

WellThatsMeScrewed · 28/06/2022 13:46

Surely it doesn’t matter who it’s aimed at, adult or child, the term ‘big knockers’ when referring to a woman’s body is offensive! I can’t believe anyone would think in 2022 that’s an ok slogan to use?

As an adult I’m offended.

Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 13:38

Why do they have to make these adverts for products primarily marketed at children?

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 13:33

Mc Cain include Smiles in the Kids section in the product part of their website
Smiles aren't just kids food though.
Why can't they make adverts for students/adults who like them too?
Sounds like they're marketing them on their social media channels such as Twitter and IG, hardly CITV or Milkshake. Then I'd maybe see your point more

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/06/2022 13:21

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:11

Smiley faces are not just kids food in the same way as fish fingers are not just kids food.

It's always been student food for a start.

There really are more important things to get worked up over.

Mc Cain include Smiles in the Kids section in the product part of their website
Mc Cain website

Mc Cain are presenting them as children’s food.

MarshaBradyo · 28/06/2022 13:19

Re it needs to be on the TV it doesn’t

ASA covers internet, phone etc too and this is a paid for advert presumably

It’s probably not targeted at children but pp can still make a complaint if it they think it’s off

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 28/06/2022 13:17

Looking at McCains' twitter, the company has been tweeting videos of Baga Chips doing things with frozen potato products since the 30th of May.

I never thought anything ever could put me off chips, but Baga's narration while making a chip butty has achieved it. Grin I don't like mixing sex and food.

ValerieDoonican · 28/06/2022 13:16

I reported the tweet. Twitter have changed their reporting structure, potentially an improvement (first time I've used this version) though unsurprisingly they only include the protected category of gender (or gender identitiy, or sexual orientation) - not, you know, actual sex, but I used gender anyway because hey-ho.

We'll see. The ratio is heartening. It's good to see people speaking out.

MsTSwift · 28/06/2022 13:15

Right on

MsTSwift · 28/06/2022 13:15

What were they thinking? Why is something that would be really dodgy if an average bloke were doing it is acceptable and “right in”if he’s in drag? It’s like a get out of jail free card 🙄

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:13

I don't buy them, because we prefer Alphabites, but me and dh are in our 40's and our kids are 18 & 20.

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:11

Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 13:09

Comefromaway
Twitter and Instagram are aimed at tens and adults. Young kids shouldn't be on them.

Then why are the adverts for kids food and not just chips? Why are people defending this decision? What's right about this?

Smiley faces are not just kids food in the same way as fish fingers are not just kids food.

It's always been student food for a start.

There really are more important things to get worked up over.

IcakethereforeIam · 28/06/2022 13:10

Thanks for the explanation, Janet. I understand it's popular (understatement?), but I've never watched it. Not a fan of makeover or song and dance shows, or smiley faces except theseSmile

wellhelloitsme · 28/06/2022 13:09

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 12:59

So it's not even on telly, it's on her IG account but people are still firing off letters of complaint?
Ok.

Would you be comfortable with an ad where a bloke not in drag made a woman with 'big knockers' (and calling them that) using kids food, ready to be served to a kid (because that's specially who the product is designed to be served to)?

Would you be comfortable with an ad where a woman made a replica of herself with 'big knockers' (and calling them that) using kids food, ready to be served to a kid (because that's specially who the product is designed to be served to)?

TheFeistyFeminist · 28/06/2022 13:09

When it was just Drag Race, I exercised my freedom to switch over. I don't want to watch performative womanface denigrating my entire biological sex with parody, which feels to me akin to the black and white minstrels of yesteryear. I subscribe to the theory that when we know better, we should do better.

But it tips over that boundary into my instagram feed, my twitter feed, or my daughter's enjoyment of you tube (I keep track of who she follows and watches, and we talk about stuff). Then, I get annoyed.

This is bad advertising. It isn't appropriate for the likely consumer, it denigrates the likely buyer, it's really tone deaf to what's going on at the moment.

If McCain need to be reminded of that, it's our job (women, consumers) to remind them. The ratio on Twitter is valuable. So is avoiding buying their products. That's a shame given their recent support of families in need. But, unless we make the case, we can't encourage change.

Thelnebriati · 28/06/2022 13:09

Comefromaway
Twitter and Instagram are aimed at tens and adults. Young kids shouldn't be on them.

Then why are the adverts for kids food and not just chips? Why are people defending this decision? What's right about this?

Birdsweepsin · 28/06/2022 13:08

marcommnews.com/mccain-unveils-rupauls-drag-race-star-baga-chipz-as-creative-director/

15 people involved in this campaign.

11 or 12 of them women by my count.

But at the top? A Mark and an Angus

Oh and they knew exactly what they were doing: "The films are packed with Baga Chipz’ iconic innuendos, framing the midweek meal occasion as the perfect time to forget the rules, unwind and enjoy the things you love."

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Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:07

The ads are probably designed to appeal to students etc, not kids. If I see one on TV I will be just as up in arms as the rest of you. But so far, no evidence for that.

achillestoes · 28/06/2022 13:05

I’m sure it was popular on Drag Race. Not when it’s being used to sell kids’ food.

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:05

Becasue the press releases etc about it state the ads are being aired on the social media account.

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:04

Baga Chipz is a character from the first season of Drag Race UK. I didn't watch that series as dd wasn't living at home at the time. I gather it was a popular character.

GreyGrey · 28/06/2022 13:02

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 12:49

They are not being shown on TV, (which I agree would be inappropriate). They are being put on Baga's instagram account. Kids shouldn't be on instagram.

How do you know it’s not on tv?

GoodJanetBadJanet · 28/06/2022 13:02

*ICakeThereforeIAm Yes, Baga is famous, was on Ru Paul's Drag Race UK.

Comefromaway · 28/06/2022 13:01

Twitter and Instagram are aimed at tens and adults. Young kids shouldn't be on them.

I guess it makes a change from dh spelling out rude words with ds's Alphabites!

catandcoffee · 28/06/2022 13:00

achillestoes · 28/06/2022 12:53

It still blurs the lines. We shouldn’t be linking kids’ food to sexualised marketing campaigns. What’s the point anyway? Nobody even likes it.

Exactly 💯