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Department for Education leaves Stonewall

160 replies

yourhairiswinterfire · 27/06/2022 18:38

Breaking: DFE has left Stonewall

"we do not feel it provides value for money for the service it provides and we shared concerns across government about the charity's stance on free speech"

twitter.com/SexMattersOrg/status/1541474620712407040

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SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 27/06/2022 23:56

ResisterRex · 27/06/2022 21:47

Scary how the exact same comment has been made by you on two threads

Bot on the loose?

FemaleAndLearning · 27/06/2022 23:46

Not enquiry, equity!

FemaleAndLearning · 27/06/2022 23:45

tobee · 27/06/2022 22:26

Who and what are EDI please?

And about flippin time re the news!

EDI Equality, Diversity and Inclusion.
Also written as DEI Diversity Enquiry and Inclusion.

NhS has their own EDI officers as do most organisations. Very captured by the likes of Stonewall.

LondonWolf · 27/06/2022 23:12

antifascist · 27/06/2022 21:34

you think this is good? You scare me,

It's great news Smile

Why don't you think it is?

Feelingoktoday · 27/06/2022 23:09

Such good news.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 27/06/2022 22:50

Good to see Athena Swan namechecked there as well - I wonder if they will come to regret their move away from their original mission statement.

HPandTheNeverEndingBedtime · 27/06/2022 22:32

Thank goodness, I teach biology and always teach that during puberty girls become women: adult human females, and boys become men: adult human males. I then teach reproductive systems etc which inevitably over the last few years has resulted in the question of how men get pregnant and me having to explain that just because you might decide to look like a man from the outside the body parts are still female and that males cannot get pregnant. I'm always waiting for a complaint to come through even though I know I am correct.

chilling19 · 27/06/2022 22:30

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 27/06/2022 21:07

the creation of new highly paid management roles in these areas

That’s the OTHER elephant in the room. Can’t believe they called that out, it felt like nobody was allowed to say what a parasitic pyramid scheme it all is.

Yep. Very lucrative it is too. My experience is that the people who take these roles are uninformed at best, about all the protected characteristics, are oblivious to the debates going on and just go along with the wokery. I am constantly vigilant where I work for this, and have weighed in where needed.

tobee · 27/06/2022 22:26

Who and what are EDI please?

And about flippin time re the news!

Leafstamp · 27/06/2022 22:19

Ah, thank you re Michelle Donnelly info

FemmeNatal · 27/06/2022 22:17

What a lovely thing to read. A return to sanity seems to be happening.

oakleaffy · 27/06/2022 22:15

Dreikanter · 27/06/2022 21:42

Militant lobby groups pushing rigid gender ideology to young people through schools scares me.

Me too.
DS left school long ago, but nine of this Trans stuff was pressed on kids then.
Friends with younger children say children identifying as “ Trans” is so common now - especially amongst Autistic children.
The youngest is a child under 5.
Something is driving this trend, surely.
When DS was at school, no one was ID ing as the opposite sex.

Clymene · 27/06/2022 22:14

There's a copy of the letter reproduced in the thread @Leafstamp

corlan · 27/06/2022 22:13

Very pleased about that. Hopefully will make it slightly easier for those working in education to resist the march of gender ideology.

Leafstamp · 27/06/2022 22:12

BrambleyHedge · 27/06/2022 18:57

University minister has written to universities today tell them to think very carefully about signing up to equality charter marks/ free speech concerns...though she references the Race Equality Charter. Looks like bonfire of the charter marks.

Where did you hear this @BrambleyHedge ?

am interested

ScreamingMeMe · 27/06/2022 22:09

viques · 27/06/2022 19:00

Good news. Let’s hope they ask schools who have been stonewalled to remove their approved by stonewall logos from their websites

I hope so!

Will it stop them giving lessons from Mermaids, Allsorts, etc though? Because that really needs to happen.

FromAMNtter · 27/06/2022 22:03

I am posting under a name change. I work with the DfE on some projects and I challenged their diversity wording when it used gender not sex as failing to comply with the EA and the PSED. They reviewed the document and corrected the wording.

It's not great for a major Gov't department to be told they've got the law wrong. I wouldn't be surprised if others had pointed it out too. I can see why they might have had enough.

dropthevipers · 27/06/2022 21:51

antifascist · 27/06/2022 21:34

you think this is good? You scare me,

you must scare very easily then, and at the wrong things. Just to pick one thing at random, Nancy Kelly, head of Stonewall described same sex attracted lesbians as racists-but you would already know that, wouldn't you?

ResisterRex · 27/06/2022 21:47

antifascist · 27/06/2022 21:34

you think this is good? You scare me,

Scary how the exact same comment has been made by you on two threads

MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/06/2022 21:44

Pleased as I am to see this, there's still a decade of of the DfE funding and advising schools to use Stonewall, Mermaids, GIRES, Gendered Intelligence and all the rest to challenge. Countless schools are Stonewall champions, cluelessly pushing an anti female, anti safeguarding agenda. All those adult groups gaslighting and weaponising children so we have a generation believing that you can change sex and that your growing body can be fixed with drugs and surgery.

So much damage has been done.

Dreikanter · 27/06/2022 21:42

antifascist · 27/06/2022 21:34

you think this is good? You scare me,

Militant lobby groups pushing rigid gender ideology to young people through schools scares me.

oldageprancer · 27/06/2022 21:39

antifascist · 27/06/2022 21:34

you think this is good? You scare me,

You don't like free speech? It's a core value in a democracy. Are you sure you are anti-fascism?

antifascist · 27/06/2022 21:34

you think this is good? You scare me,

LondonWolf · 27/06/2022 21:16

Soontobe60 · 27/06/2022 21:10

As a teacher, I can’t tell you how good this news is. Some schools are going to be held very much accountable in the near future for the way they’ve pushed the trans agenda and colluded against parents in the say so of stonewall ‘law’.

I've had cause to write to my own child's secondary school about their excessive agenda pushing. The reply I got had the HT's pronouns in their signature...and there's been a certain frostiness towards my child and myself since I wrote.

I'm grimly satisfied to see this and and curious as to what the HT & staff concerned will he thinking now.