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Boris Johnson speaks again

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achillestoes · 27/06/2022 06:48

He says if you’re born with a penis you’re a man. He reiterates his three concerns about trans issues: Gillick competence for children receiving transitioning treatments, women’s spaces, sports. He says we need to treat people with sensitivity but he sees no reason to dissent from what FINA say is appropriate in women’s swimming.

These comments are reported in the Daily Mail and he made them on his Rwanda trip.

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carefullycourageous · 27/06/2022 07:14

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 27/06/2022 07:07

It would be helpful if Johnson and the Cabinet actually DID something about this, notably in the NHS and schools.

We’re waiting.

They don't care about women's issues to actually do anything, they're just hot air. They are happy enough for rape to be decriminalised by the back door. This Tory party is no friend of women, but they'll say anything to keep the flames of the culture wars burning.

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achillestoes · 27/06/2022 07:10

They are taking action in those areas, though. The EHRC has reversed direction. The Cass Review is imminent. Dorries is meeting the sporting bodies tomorrow. It’s not as decisive as many people would like but their actions also have to stand up in court.

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SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 27/06/2022 07:07

It would be helpful if Johnson and the Cabinet actually DID something about this, notably in the NHS and schools.

We’re waiting.

McDuffy · 27/06/2022 07:03

Also reported in the ToL

Boris Johnson: Only a man is born with a penis

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/80e0b8e0-f58f-11ec-84c1-32e852e780b0?shareToken=7ab7804c078a9a85c5aeeed969dfbd1c

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achillestoes · 27/06/2022 07:01

I don’t see what’s leading about it. He was asked about women’s swimming. That’s not a question about a vulnerable minority, it’s a question about the rules that apply to anyone who wants to compete in elite swimming.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 27/06/2022 06:58

#nodebate rearing it's ugly head yet again at Stonewall I see?

guinnessguzzler · 27/06/2022 06:55

Have you ever been involved in strategy sessions for an organisation and done those exercises like 'If the organisation had a personality, what would it be?'.

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achillestoes · 27/06/2022 06:54

Stonewall say:

‘The real question that should be on the nation's lips is this: at a time when we are living through multiple national crises, why are journalists squandering valuable interview time by asking the Prime Minister leading questions about a tiny, vulnerable minority?’

Getting tired of these lobbyists trying to tell everyone what they are allowed to ask elected ministers. If the issue is important, and they’ve spent a decade telling us it is and we all have to care about it, then we will have to discuss it.

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Conflictedunicorn · 27/06/2022 06:52

And stonewall are sooooo pissed off about it. Apparently the PM should not be concentrating on this topic which ‘only affects a tiny minority’. but on the many other important issues. The same stonewall who threw a fit because the government wouldn’t deal with their demands on conversion therapy during the Ukraine crisis and the fist of living crisis. They’re definitely not consistent