Boris Johnson speaks again

Wonder what time Nadine Dorries is meeting the NGBs...

#metoo #gc #dinosaurs

Sorry wish I could be more pithy and funny with the hashtags. But seriously yes!

Bunch of "anti- fascists" here.

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Men in black balaclavas using their physical strength to stop women from peacefully talking about women's rights in public spaces scare me.

Being called a "uterus haver" one minute, a "womb carrier" the next minute, a "person with a cervix" the next minute then "cis" the next scares me.

The left have brought this on themselves.

Same comment as on the DfE thread.

All Labour have to do is acknowledge women sex based rights & by clear that by women they mean the adult human female kind

it’s such a small easy thing, it asks do little of them

and yet they just don’t think it’s important enough

kier starmer doesn’t really believe a man can become a woman so he’s either a coward or a liar.

Your username scares me. I doubt you are genuinely anti- fascist. I strongly suspect you are "anti- people who don't agree with me (because they are self-evidently wrong and bad because they don't agree with me)"

If your username reflects your views then I imagine you favour authoritarianism enforced by violence and intimidation whilst the enforcers conceal their identity.

If women from across the political spectrum having a mostly civilised discussion on an internet forum scares you it's probably because you find freedom and democracy intolerable.

you think this is good? You scare me,

No I agree that without our sex based rights we lose far too much - it simply eclipses all else until women's rights are ringfenced. We would lose fundamental power as a class, how all these ally women don't see that is just beyond me. I think of it like a building block on Maslow's pyramid of needs.

It's radical to many of us to vote for the right, but what is now being supported by left is even more radical.

I think anybody who so impressed their local office that they refused the candidate being foistered upon them and held out for their choice has to have something in them that makes them a contender for the top spot.

Set aside politics for a moment, I warmed to her as a human being when she first got elected and interviewed, she really is the stuff of which role models are made.

If Labour don’t get their act together, Kemi gets elected as party leader in the future with the CONS stating in their manifesto that abortion/gay marriage are settled law and they see no reason to start changing them…. I can see a lot of women who’ll look past her abstention on the abortion/gay marriage bill in NI just for the sake of having a female leader who is willing to state she knows reality from fantasy and intends to do something about it.

Then she can become the first black and 3rd female PM. At which point I expect Labour to start yelling that she is being both black and female all wrong, so it doesn’t count.

Mind you, I thought Jess Phillips would be the 1st female Labour PM. I really warmed to her as a person too. Offered her a useful titbit back when she ran for her seat. She turned it down, saying she wanted to win fair and square on policy and what she offered rather than win based on anything else. My god that was impressive. Worrying, cos I really wanted her to win, but so very fucking impressive on a human level. Yet I don’t recognise the woman I spoke to when I see clips of her these days. I also really warmed to Diane Abbot and got shitfaced in celebration when she first won her seat, proclaiming she’d be the next female PM. (I still have a soft spot for her, I don’t think being the first black female MP was at all easy and the toll on her has likely been very high over the years.)

My record on predicting future PMs is either really, really bad, or my proclamations are a jinx. Apologies Diane, Jess & Kemi if it’s the latter.

I agree that the Tories are more likely to have woman leader next than Labour and I'd be delighted if it was Kemi Badenoch. I wish Boris would give her a proper cabinet post.

The dreadful all women shortlists Labour have which I think are really patronising and gives us the underwhelming Stella Creasey, Jess Phillips, Lisa Nandy etc who I think all were on all women short-lists. What a let down they are.

I actually think Johnson really likes women - that's part of his problem. He is chaotic and unreliable but probably the same in his friendships with men. He certainly is not frightened of intelligent women or women with drive and ambition. His wives and better known lovers have all been educated women with careers. It is too easy and simple to see philanderer and think woman-hater. Lord knows he has his faults but I really don't think hating women is one of them. I wish I could say the same for male MPs in the other parties. And I think women's rights are safer with Johnson than with Penny Mordant.

I'm actually terrified of a Tory leadership change - if the Tories elected someone like Mordant then we'd be toast I think. And no other party offering an alternative.

Kemi is articulate, insightful, eloquent and decisive when it comes to many issues including women's rights, she would make an excellent PM on these qualities alone

The mind boggles how you can be left wing for years but one issue and you sell your soul.

One issue?

For women, it's the only issue.

This is as stupid as saying that slaves demanding to repeal slavery are fixated on one issue. And that really they should be interested in the tax advantages their masters will get, and the standards of living that won't affect them and the laws that will protect others but not them, because how narrow minded of them!

Fgs how stupid do you think female people are? Erase them in law and what else is there left to care about voting on?

And so will I. Because how can a party legislate for my education, health, pension, housing, etc if they do not know what I am.

The mind boggles how you can be left wing for years but one issue and you sell your soul.

The mind boggles how often women are told to sit down, shut up and wait their turn. I am allowed to choose whoever is going to safeguard my sex-based rights and keep children protected from harm. I will choose whoever does this. And I will not apologise for it or be made to feel bad. I refuse.

It's the last ditch try as they've seen the world has gone 'ok - women means politely 'anyone of any sex' - so female is the new word for the cunty type half of the human race'.

It makes me quite sad really when I hear someone try it, because the answer really is no, love. Nice try but no banana. Stop it now. It makes the total disrespect for women absolutely clear, and makes just as clear that women should have said no, very clearly, much much earlier, without any of this faux 'kindness' and naiceness. You know, like men would have. It's been taken as a sign of weakness to take full advantage of.

I’m not saying that it’s right, but trans women are now quite often describing themselves as female, and this is quite new.

It's a symptom of the problem Mandelson summarised in his very revealing speech about a 'post democratic era'. In which professional politicians would run the country and ordinary little mortals would just leave them to it and not bother their little heads with things they couldn't possibly understand. What he meant is symptomatic of the thinking of much of the left: that democracy is a bad thing, that it gets in the way of political agenda of those who are better and know better, and should just do to the electorate what in the opinion of these superior beings is best and right for them. While punishing and removing those who are non compliant.

It's fucking scary stuff. This is the belief. That they are right, everyone else is wrong, and those who don't agree are subhuman. They don't want to win by representing the general public; they want the general public to be made to do what they're told. Basically they don't agree with democracy. Hence the constant 'we don't want your vote' if you ask questions they don't like.

Thank God at the moment we still have it, and they would have to be voted in to continue with their agenda, so this is working out really badly for them. But the longer the Tories fuck about and let Boris destroy trust, the more likely it is that people will end up voting Labour in pure desire for something different, and then we'll be in real trouble.

The rise of professional politicians has been a seriously awful thing in terms of integrity and actual representation of the public, and nutjobs with no real life experience outside of the Westminster bubble or any real grip on reality in the grip of high faluting, ivory tower ideologies. They've been tried. It's been a disaster.