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Surrogacy summed up in one photo

138 replies

Imnobody4 · 26/06/2022 12:22

This is absolutely chilling, twitter.com/liambrunetti/status/1540966900556959744?t=l6UnV24IZ7Kzv0-MrClalA&s=09

Surrogacy summed up in one photo
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Viviennemary · 26/06/2022 14:29

Its bern happening for ages. And nobody bats an eyelid. So what difference does putting it into a photo make.

FunnyTalks · 26/06/2022 14:25

puddingandsun · 26/06/2022 13:27

Honestly, just pretend it's a man + a woman at the front if you must, and the photo becomes perfectly acceptable i.e. it's a photograph of the parents for their family album.

That's pretty homophobic of you to suggest that the picture becomes acceptable if the couple in the foreground are heterosexual! Did you really mean that?

1VY · 26/06/2022 14:22

Even in a capitalist society, babies should not be bought as a commodity.
Kidneys should not be bought.
Children should not be sexually abused for money.

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 26/06/2022 14:13

So would prefer capitalism to be overthrown?

Me too!

Supporting capitalism doesn't mean there should be no regulations on what can be bought and sold. I do not want to "overthrow capitalism" and I don't support surrogacy or the normalisation of prostitution.

anystropheus · 26/06/2022 14:03

SongsAboutYou · 26/06/2022 14:00

Chose..lol.

When rich women are surrogates for poor women, I might think it’s a choice. Never ever gonna happen.

So would prefer capitalism to be overthrown?

Me too!

MassiveSalad22 · 26/06/2022 14:03

StellaAndCrow · 26/06/2022 12:43

And I think the word surrogate is used wrongly. The woman carrying the baby is the actual mother, not the surrogate mother.

The surrogate is surely the person who takes the baby from the actual mother.

Spot on

SongsAboutYou · 26/06/2022 14:02

*and men

NotTerfNorCis · 26/06/2022 14:01

That is horrific. Almost like they deliberately drew from The Handmaid's Tale aesthetic.

MissMaple82 · 26/06/2022 14:00

Wrong.. in so many ways

SongsAboutYou · 26/06/2022 14:00

anystropheus · 26/06/2022 13:54

From what I can see, she chose to be a surrogate.

Her body, her choice.

Chose..lol.

When rich women are surrogates for poor women, I might think it’s a choice. Never ever gonna happen.

InFiveMins · 26/06/2022 13:56

Awful.

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 26/06/2022 13:54

Fair enough any

I just think she shouldn’t be blurred out in the background in any photo taken and that the other woman shouldn’t be carrying a sign saying she is a body part akin to a message bag.

The time to make it all about the parents and the baby is when the baby is born.

It also just makes the women look like a necessary evil and they are so much more than that.

Im not outraged. Just saddened.

anystropheus · 26/06/2022 13:54

SongsAboutYou · 26/06/2022 13:52

I couldn’t care less if they’re kissing the woman or if she’s on their shoulders like a hero, surrogacy should be banned. It exploits women and treats children like commodities. A few ‘nicer’ photos , including the mother, (because she is the mother), doesn’t make this disgusting practice ok.

From what I can see, she chose to be a surrogate.

Her body, her choice.

Soubriquet · 26/06/2022 13:54

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 26/06/2022 13:50

To be fair, the Lawnmower family and The Prego family really don't deserve to be on that list.

Oh yes. There are some on there that aren’t that bad. But some are just appalling

SongsAboutYou · 26/06/2022 13:52

anystropheus · 26/06/2022 13:48

There are photos like that in the set. But sharing them wouldn't cause maximum outrage would it?

I couldn’t care less if they’re kissing the woman or if she’s on their shoulders like a hero, surrogacy should be banned. It exploits women and treats children like commodities. A few ‘nicer’ photos , including the mother, (because she is the mother), doesn’t make this disgusting practice ok.

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 26/06/2022 13:51

ThickCutSteakChips · 26/06/2022 13:41

I'm assuming the red dress wasn't deliberate, but it's a bit of an unfortunate choice!

I thought the whole set up was satirical.

TheLassWiADelicateAir · 26/06/2022 13:50

Soubriquet · 26/06/2022 13:09

I got you beat

Theres quite a few on this list that is alarming but this is the worst

If you can’t read it, it says on the mens about about the new baby. On the woman’s, it just says uterus

link

To be fair, the Lawnmower family and The Prego family really don't deserve to be on that list.

anystropheus · 26/06/2022 13:48

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 26/06/2022 13:43

It would be lovely if she was front and centre.

But when the other woman is front and centre, her role is clearly defined. Uterus. Not so lovely.

i don’t know which picture is worse.

Regardless of the family the baby will be born into, it wouldn’t happen without the woman who is nurturing the baby.

I don’t think either photo is celebrating that.

There are photos like that in the set. But sharing them wouldn't cause maximum outrage would it?

SongsAboutYou · 26/06/2022 13:47

LookAtThatCritter · 26/06/2022 12:56

Really not understanding the issue with this picture. A woman is willing to be a surrogate, is probably making pretty great money from it and the baby is going to loving parents who want it. The parents want to do a photoshoot and have included the surrogate in it. Maybe I’m just missing something

You’re missing quite a lot.

anystropheus · 26/06/2022 13:46

StaunchMomma · 26/06/2022 13:38

That bit isn't the problem!!

It doesn't matter who the baby is going to, it matters that the maternal mother is in the back of the shot, cradling a bump full of baby she's giving away, looking down sadly with her face covered.

It just feels really insensitively set up.

There's other photos in the set where she's standing alongside the couple. But they are not the one which has been chosen to be shared by other people (who are not in the photo at all) on twitter an Mumsnet. I wonder why ..

SheldonesqueTheBstard · 26/06/2022 13:43

It would be lovely if she was front and centre.

But when the other woman is front and centre, her role is clearly defined. Uterus. Not so lovely.

i don’t know which picture is worse.

Regardless of the family the baby will be born into, it wouldn’t happen without the woman who is nurturing the baby.

I don’t think either photo is celebrating that.

DidoDino · 26/06/2022 13:43

Talk about reducing a woman to cattle status.

Yep. And reducing a baby to a commodity.

ThickCutSteakChips · 26/06/2022 13:41

I'm assuming the red dress wasn't deliberate, but it's a bit of an unfortunate choice!

SandyWedges · 26/06/2022 13:41

StaunchMomma · 26/06/2022 13:38

That bit isn't the problem!!

It doesn't matter who the baby is going to, it matters that the maternal mother is in the back of the shot, cradling a bump full of baby she's giving away, looking down sadly with her face covered.

It just feels really insensitively set up.

It's a problem for me. Why would the pregnancy be in the background all blurry and just have the couple looking at each other like the baby doesn't matter.

StaunchMomma · 26/06/2022 13:39

Soubriquet · 26/06/2022 13:09

I got you beat

Theres quite a few on this list that is alarming but this is the worst

If you can’t read it, it says on the mens about about the new baby. On the woman’s, it just says uterus

link

That's vile.

Talk about reducing a woman to cattle status.