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Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

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Metabigot · 25/06/2022 17:25

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

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placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:37

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:36

Ah, the old, ooops can’t answer your questions, it’s bedtime. Funny that. Surely you would have known the answer to the trans race question so the reason you’re not answering it is either that is shows your whole argument is build on sand and indefensible, or you don’t know the answer because you haven’t thought about ur, just repeated mantras.

Or its cause I have a life outside MN. Bless you not being able to cope with that.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:36

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:36

You are not tne queen of MN however much you think you are.

Rent free in your head Grin 👑

Bullies do that.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:36

Ah, the old, ooops can’t answer your questions, it’s bedtime. Funny that. Surely you would have known the answer to the trans race question so the reason you’re not answering it is either that is shows your whole argument is build on sand and indefensible, or you don’t know the answer because you haven’t thought about ur, just repeated mantras.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:36

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:35

Ah, then you must have “skimmed” the bits where place repeatedly called other posters bullies, disingenuous, spiteful, mean, meanspirited, boring, transphobic, and so on.

Indeed. Also "bitter", "self-indulgent"

I stand by both of those. Continue playing the victim if it suits though.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:36

You are not tne queen of MN however much you think you are.

Rent free in your head Grin 👑

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:35

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:32

No she’s not, we don’t have a queen. We’re a democracy. And according to a thread on AIBU, we have a mafia. Like I said, gets more interesting by the day round here. So, about this trans race thing?

Democracy 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:35

Ah, then you must have “skimmed” the bits where place repeatedly called other posters bullies, disingenuous, spiteful, mean, meanspirited, boring, transphobic, and so on.

Indeed. Also "bitter", "self-indulgent"

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:34

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 22:32

Are you just going to keep dodging it?

Yeah
That ok with you?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:33

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 22:30

So you’re still just going to ignore the question that everyone knows would show up your standpoint as being built on sand.

What a surprise.

Have you noticed that no-one else has to be so disingenuous to support their point of view?

Do you not get any sense of shame that you have to do this?

Shame over what? Not being in the MN mean girl gang?, il cope.

Btw I'm.going to bed. I've not been cancelled, I've not flounced, I just have a life behind the bullies. Imagine.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:32

No she’s not, we don’t have a queen. We’re a democracy. And according to a thread on AIBU, we have a mafia. Like I said, gets more interesting by the day round here. So, about this trans race thing?

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 22:32

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:31

Oh sorry . Was it only okay when you were giving it 'thanks'to folk piling in on me but nobody is allowed to support me?

You are not tne queen of MN however much you think you are.

Are you just going to keep dodging it?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:26

Good of you to take on the one person who's defended me, yet when I challenged your cheer leader earlier you told me there was no thing as second in command.
Interesting.

We're in the playground again I see.

Oh sorry . Was it only okay when you were giving it 'thanks'to folk piling in on me but nobody is allowed to support me?

You are not tne queen of MN however much you think you are.

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 22:30

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:25

Ah so you didnt attack me? Ok.

Good of you to take on the one person who's defended me, yet when I challenged your cheer leader earlier you told me there was no thing as second in command.
Interesting.

So you’re still just going to ignore the question that everyone knows would show up your standpoint as being built on sand.

What a surprise.

Have you noticed that no-one else has to be so disingenuous to support their point of view?

Do you not get any sense of shame that you have to do this?

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:29

On a serious note, I think the problem is we are being told to believe something with no reason why we have to believe it, except ‘you must believe this or you’re a bad person’. Yes I am mocking this ideology, but I would also mock people who told me the earth is flat, or the moon is made of cheese. Unless I can see credible arguments to believe something, I’m not going to do it.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:26

We have a cheer leader? Bloody hell mumsnet gets better but the day? Do they have pom-poms?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:26

Good of you to take on the one person who's defended me, yet when I challenged your cheer leader earlier you told me there was no thing as second in command.
Interesting.

We're in the playground again I see.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:25

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:22

I missed you being called transphobic, sorry.

But I'm not sure it's a crime not to have coherent arguments?

You must have missed quite a lot of it, place was pretty free with the twisting of peoples words and personal attacks on other posters. Maybe don't just "skim" the thread and then jump in to criticise people for being mean to a poster without mentioning their own personal attacks?

Ah so you didnt attack me? Ok.

Good of you to take on the one person who's defended me, yet when I challenged your cheer leader earlier you told me there was no thing as second in command.
Interesting.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:24

Oh yes. @place did say earlier on the thread she had good coherent arguments, We’re all listening so have at it. We believe in you

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 22:23

Yeah that's why. Nothing to do with me having a life outside mn

To be fair @placewherewebelong you've been on Mn pretty much all day, on and off, as have I.

I actually think you have points you want to articulate but maybe haven't worked out how best to express them? I'd certainly like to think so at least. But the unwillingness to engage in the transracial conversation is concerning. It's natural that people will (and have) said 'well if you can feel like 'this' why can't you feel like 'that'?'

If you can't or won't answer, people will naturally assume that you are arguing in bad faith.

ThickCutSteakChips · 26/06/2022 22:23

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:18

Yeah that's why. Nothing to do with me having a life outside mn.

Come on then, let's have it now then!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:23

it seemed like quite a lot of the comments referred to activities or behaviors rather than people and were not intended as personal but as a reasonable part of the argument taking place.

No.

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 22:22

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:18

Yeah that's why. Nothing to do with me having a life outside mn.

Go on then, show everyone that you are not a disingenuous troll, and explain coherently why trans-race is different to trans gender.

Or don’t, and just re-confirm what everyone can already see.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:22

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:21

Umm…. @Aria999 was actually defending you. I think you’ve proved the point we were making perfectly.

I said thanks to her. Can you read?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 22:22

I missed you being called transphobic, sorry.

But I'm not sure it's a crime not to have coherent arguments?

You must have missed quite a lot of it, place was pretty free with the twisting of peoples words and personal attacks on other posters. Maybe don't just "skim" the thread and then jump in to criticise people for being mean to a poster without mentioning their own personal attacks?

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 22:21

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 22:17

Thanks.

Umm…. @Aria999 was actually defending you. I think you’ve proved the point we were making perfectly.

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