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Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

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Metabigot · 25/06/2022 17:25

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

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placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 10:30

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/06/2022 10:18

Yes, there is plenty mean glee in the OP and subsequent posts

thats not what you said

you said gleeful and mean…thats two different things

now youve said mean glee, that makes even less sense to be honest

Rufus, I've NCed, you actually know who I am.

However - you know what I mean. the glee of deliberately disregarding peoples' feelings.

babyjellyfish · 26/06/2022 10:28

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 10:13

PS, you cant have a non binary woman.

Btw, your summing up as trans as purely people who want access to spaces is nonsense.

I'm summing it up in terms of the impact on the rest of us, which is what I actually care about.

Non binary people are literally as binary as everyone else on the planet. They are either male or female, like the rest of us.

CandyLeBonBon · 26/06/2022 10:20

PS, you cant have a non binary woman.

PPS yes you can!

HTH

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/06/2022 10:18

Yes, there is plenty mean glee in the OP and subsequent posts

thats not what you said

you said gleeful and mean…thats two different things

now youve said mean glee, that makes even less sense to be honest

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 10:13

babyjellyfish · 26/06/2022 09:58

I think women have had enough of being redefined as people who conform to feminine stereotypes so that they can be forced to share their single sex spaces and sporting categories with male people, and prioritise those male people's rights over our own.

And I personally have had enough of "non binary women" whose whole identity revolves around them believing that they are special, and not boring normies like the rest of us, and reserving the right for themselves not to be forced into a box with people like Lia Thomas, whilst insisting that we remain in that box.

Fight fire with fire.

PS, you cant have a non binary woman.

Btw, your summing up as trans as purely people who want access to spaces is nonsense.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 10:12

Yes, there is plenty mean glee in the OP and subsequent posts.

I don't have an issue with people fighting for womens' rights, but I do have an issue with the spite that seems to come with it.

Belovedfool · 26/06/2022 10:11

I'm catgender too. Sleep or party modes mainly, with a side order of sitting on the bins gazing dreamily into the woods.

My pronouns are chicken/dreamies and I'll bite if you get 'em wrong.

Woke scoldings will be treated with the respect they deserve - a casual vomit over the top and scrape to bury.

babyjellyfish · 26/06/2022 09:58

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 09:48

It really is sad to see women being deliberately gleeful and mean

I think women have had enough of being redefined as people who conform to feminine stereotypes so that they can be forced to share their single sex spaces and sporting categories with male people, and prioritise those male people's rights over our own.

And I personally have had enough of "non binary women" whose whole identity revolves around them believing that they are special, and not boring normies like the rest of us, and reserving the right for themselves not to be forced into a box with people like Lia Thomas, whilst insisting that we remain in that box.

Fight fire with fire.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/06/2022 09:54

Means a bit different but gleeful?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 26/06/2022 09:53

you don’t like women being gleeful?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 09:48

It really is sad to see women being deliberately gleeful and mean

babyjellyfish · 26/06/2022 09:47

I think we should all identify as non binary.

The non binary people would be furious but they wouldn't be able to do a thing about it.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 26/06/2022 09:47

@Metabigot 🤢you are right that is a price too high to pay.

I might identify as tortoise gender, I reckon I could live on salad in return for spending the entire winter snuggled up somewhere warm and undisturbed.

@stealtheatingtunnocks That is an interesting theory. I wonder if it wouldn’t be better for them and us if we could acknowledge their neurodiversity and take reasonable account of that rather than the genders, but I see what you are saying it makes it easier for them to cope with everyone else if everyone else agrees to be categorised… still seems a bit of a big ask of the rest of us.

Photosymphysis · 26/06/2022 09:39

If forced, I might denote my special identity to be (as described by gender wiki)

Agender, due to "Not knowing or not caring about gender, as an internal identity and/or as an external label."

Genderqueer, as "Those who do not or cannot place a name to their gender"

Non-binary, since at best I "Have a neutral or unrecognized gender identity, such as agender"

And also (from stonewall): "Non-binary
An umbrella term for people whose gender identity doesn’t sit comfortably with ‘man’ or ‘woman’. Non-binary identities are varied and can include people who identify with some aspects of binary identities, while others reject them entirely." since the stereotypes used to define 'woman' and 'man' in these examples are outdated and oppressive.

Though, as @Metabigot says actually Cassgender is probably the closest: "Cassgender is a gender identity where one feels that their gender is unimportant, or is indifferent to the idea of gender. Cassgender is unlike agender, as a cassgender individual might identify as a particular gender, but they don't feel it is an important part of their identity."

When it comes to pronouns, it's an important part of my identity that I don't care about gender and so I will live my authentic truth by using sex-based pronouns. It would be phobic to compel me to do any different.

As such a special human I expect my opinions on everything to be given the proper attention and protection such special humans deserve. Thanks OP for bringing this opportunity to truly find my authentic self.

There, I have come out. Celebrate ME.

stealtheatingtunnocks · 26/06/2022 09:03

I think the endless flags and categorising of people is a symptom of neirodiversity.

It’s a way of signalling “ I am this therefore I need that “

people are hard to figure out - but if you know their flag, their favourite Pokémon, their anime crush and what colour their hair is today - well, you don’t need to worry so much about confusing facial expressions and oblique language with bemusing tone.

Metabigot · 26/06/2022 08:52

PomegranateOfPersephone · 26/06/2022 07:56

If I identify as a cat can I assume that gives me the right to spend 16+ hours a day relaxing somewhere comfortable and warm? Would it be a hate crime for anyone to interfere with me relaxing in warm and comfortable places? Also as a cat I can just wander off when I get bored right? Even mid sentence?

It really does seem like little children playing. I wonder if people who identify as something they aren’t were unable to play in the way they needed to when they were little. Did a lack a playtime stunt their development?

Yeah but you'd have to eat cat food. Thats the downside.

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PomegranateOfPersephone · 26/06/2022 07:56

If I identify as a cat can I assume that gives me the right to spend 16+ hours a day relaxing somewhere comfortable and warm? Would it be a hate crime for anyone to interfere with me relaxing in warm and comfortable places? Also as a cat I can just wander off when I get bored right? Even mid sentence?

It really does seem like little children playing. I wonder if people who identify as something they aren’t were unable to play in the way they needed to when they were little. Did a lack a playtime stunt their development?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 00:52

What about Genderfree? I seem to remember that being a thing a while back?

It was, it started here with a MNer

ldontWanna · 26/06/2022 00:15

I actually really like that. Gets googling.

Athenajm80 · 26/06/2022 00:11

ldontWanna · 25/06/2022 17:59

I identify as a cat. There. Meow!

Me too. We have a flag apparently. I'm not sure if the eBay seller is taking the piss or is serious, it's hard to tell these days!

Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.
Eightiesfan · 25/06/2022 23:45

Nope, not accepting of any flag that’s grey and dull. Here’s one that says women are loud and proud 🤣

Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.
LilianLenton · 25/06/2022 23:42

I love the unintentional irony of this. Cassandra was a priestess in ancient Troy, fated to forsee the future /know the truth of things, especially in relation to impending disastrous events, but never to be believed.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra

Metabigot · 25/06/2022 23:37

How the hell did we manage all those years without pronouns.

Most of the time a name suggests a man/woman but I remember starting a new job and one of the managers was called Bev and male (not trans just a normal bloke with a typical female name ... maybe once a male name).

Said she and was soon corrected to he

Problem solved
No biggie

No literal violence

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SheldontheWonderSchlong · 25/06/2022 23:31

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 25/06/2022 22:11

I’m agenda, and I am quite short. My pronouns are Introduction/ Anyotherbusiness.

😂

Marchmount · 25/06/2022 23:25

Wonder what the pronouns are for cassgender 😂When I pitch up at work and insist on using them perhaps some of the young hip colleagues will start to realise how fucking bonkers it is.