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Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

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Metabigot · 25/06/2022 17:25

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo.

If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender.

If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall.

Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

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FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 14:33

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 10:46

But just because that's your way of dealing with it doesnt give you the right to take the piss put of other people does it.

Everyone has the right to take the piss out of anyone that they want.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:33

Quite.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 26/06/2022 14:32

Because even if I disagree with views, I wouldn't mock them and call them ridiculous.

but you would call them mean, tedious, bullying, boring, nasty… you really aren’t averse to name-calling and labelling.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:31

Interesting deflection, but you didn't answer my question.

As you rightly pointed out, it's not Question Time or a university debate. Like you, we all answer the points we think are most interesting.

Belovedfool · 26/06/2022 14:31

I thought everyone had a gender identity, according to the ideology? Even those who object to it? Who say they don't believe in the ideology? In which case, surely mocking the ideology is ultimately mocking oneself?

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 14:30

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 10:13

PS, you cant have a non binary woman.

Btw, your summing up as trans as purely people who want access to spaces is nonsense.

Stop gatekeepong. Everyone is non-binary, except possibly Kylie Minogue and Gerard Butler. The rest of us are on a spectrum somewhere between these two.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:30

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 14:28

Equality?

oh, so a thread on here mocking and degrading women would be OK, would it?

thought not.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 14:30

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:29

Do you usually mock and take the piss out of people?

Yes.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:29

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:29

My point was, if I made a thread mocking women, I'd be piled on. You agreed that may well happen.

I literally couldn't care less whether or not you do that and what response you receive.

Interesting deflection, but you didn't answer my question.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:29

nightwakingmoon · 26/06/2022 14:28

So, to sum up this thread (graphic also taken from Tumblr):

That’s us TOLD.

Do you usually mock and take the piss out of people?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:29

My point was, if I made a thread mocking women, I'd be piled on. You agreed that may well happen.

I literally couldn't care less whether or not you do that and what response you receive.

nightwakingmoon · 26/06/2022 14:28

So, to sum up this thread (graphic also taken from Tumblr):

That’s us TOLD.

Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.
Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 14:28

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:27

Now for someone who gets so utterly offended by inaccurate statements, you've done the same.

My point was, if I made a thread mocking women, I'd be piled on. You agreed that may well happen.

But it's OK to do it to trans people.

Now what word would we use when we allow bad behaviour towards one group of people purely based on a characteristic?

Equality?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:28

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 14:26

So have you also been on TRA Twitter telling them not to be gleeful and spiteful, and to stop the rape and death threats? Why is it only women who are expected to ‘watch their tone’ and not be mean?

this is such a straw man, because it's not them that the thread is mocking, is it?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:27

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:25

But trans people are fair game?

Fair game for what? What name would you give gentle mockery of gender identity ideology?

Now for someone who gets so utterly offended by inaccurate statements, you've done the same.

My point was, if I made a thread mocking women, I'd be piled on. You agreed that may well happen.

But it's OK to do it to trans people.

Now what word would we use when we allow bad behaviour towards one group of people purely based on a characteristic?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:26

Ooooh that's a good one. Pity the flag is deeply unattractive.

That's a shame! The flag is key. Guess I'll have to stick with AHF and the suffragette colours.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 14:26

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:24

I have, I just don't usually comment, because despite what you say, I think everyone's entitled to an opinion

The fact i said about 10 pages ago I don't think people need to be gleeful and spiteful and it's had this reaction says it all.

So have you also been on TRA Twitter telling them not to be gleeful and spiteful, and to stop the rape and death threats? Why is it only women who are expected to ‘watch their tone’ and not be mean?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:25

But trans people are fair game?

Fair game for what? What name would you give gentle mockery of gender identity ideology?

Belovedfool · 26/06/2022 14:25

PeppaPigIsBacon · 26/06/2022 14:19

I’ve started identifying as quoigender. Shuts people up as no one knows what it is. And is actually fairly accurate in terms of my feelings about the whole gender thing.

nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Quoigender

Ooooh that's a good one. Pity the flag is deeply unattractive.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:25

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 14:24

You’ve not been on the site long have you sweetie? Try AIBU if you want to see threads ridiculing women’s concerns. Who has there suddenly been loads of new posters trying to tone police the women on here? This must be the 4th time this week. Has someone sent out a bat signal or something? .

No, it's just thankfully that the days of the same group of people ruling the boards seem to be going. Thankfully.

and I've been on AIBU for years, 'sweetie'. Not much leads me to comment, but this thread did.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:24

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:23

But I wouldn't.

Your choice. I don't care. As you said, you'd get piled on, and that might be fair enough.

Yes, I would. Rightly so.

But trans people are fair game?

there's a word for that.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 14:24

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:20

to you.

If i started a thread about womens' concerns about something being silly and ridiculous, I'd be piled on. So how is it OK to other groups?

You’ve not been on the site long have you sweetie? Try AIBU if you want to see threads ridiculing women’s concerns. Who has there suddenly been loads of new posters trying to tone police the women on here? This must be the 4th time this week. Has someone sent out a bat signal or something? .

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 14:24

nightwakingmoon · 26/06/2022 14:22

I think you’ll find that the lived experiences of many women on mumsnet means they know very well what sealioning and DARVO are (and there if anything is a marker of someone who hasn’t spent any time on MN outside these boards).

Just dropping this graphic here again:

I have, I just don't usually comment, because despite what you say, I think everyone's entitled to an opinion

The fact i said about 10 pages ago I don't think people need to be gleeful and spiteful and it's had this reaction says it all.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:23

But I wouldn't.

Your choice. I don't care. As you said, you'd get piled on, and that might be fair enough.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 14:23

I’ve started identifying as quoigender.

Oh yes. Perfect.