Page 14 | Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

Metabigot · 2022-06-25T16:25:37+00:00

I'm technically agender anyway as I choose to not believe in gender woo. If males can infiltrate feminism by saying they're women I'm infiltrating transgendersism by identifying as agender. If I'm asked my gender identity why shouldn't I say this, it's technically true according to stonewall. Quite like the idea of being a double agent of sorts....

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:34

What is "trans" if not gender dysphoria?

You also said that you believed a small number had gender dysphoria.

What do you think drives the rest, then?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:35

why do you constantly bring up the rape and death treats, when its not the vast majority of people doing it?

I don't know what proportion it is, but it's quite a lot of them.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:35

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:34

So how many rape and death threats do we have to accept before we are allowed to be angry and frightened? Just give us a number. I mean we’re in the high thousands now so place your bid. Why are you not there telling those people to stop doing that? Why come here and whinge at women for calling out the absurdity of this whole ideology?

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"whinge"

Classic attempt to shut down women.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:34

What is "trans" if not gender dysphoria?

I'd be careful here, as what you appear to be implying is that every transgender person is mentally ill.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:33

Yeah, the mental health around trans is really funny.

These dishonest straw men you keep constructing are really piling up here.

"But then I have a sense of humour." the implication being that you can laugh at and mock trans people cause its just so funny.

But of course you will just come back and say I'm lying, because you've got very good at implying things and then backing off and claiming you didn't.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:34

What is "trans" if not gender dysphoria?

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:34

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:31

but it is.

Your whole fear and anger about trans is based on their views - if it isn't, why do you constantly bring up the rape and death treats, when its not the vast majority of people doing it?

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So how many rape and death threats do we have to accept before we are allowed to be angry and frightened? Just give us a number. I mean we’re in the high thousands now so place your bid. Why are you not there telling those people to stop doing that? Why come here and whinge at women for calling out the absurdity of this whole ideology?

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:33

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:20

But you are.

You're mocking a whole ideology based on the threat that 1 percent pose.

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Read it again champ, I was posting about the problematic 99%, not the rest.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:33

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:32

Gender dysphoria is literally a psychological condition. Do you not even understand the basics of what you are trying to lecture people about?

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Well aware thanks, but who is anyone to diagnose someone who is transgender with gender dysphoria?

Do you think I'm naive enough to not get the implication that anyone trans must have a disorder because in MN world gender is made up so therefore the rest of the world must follow suit?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:33

Yeah, the mental health around trans is really funny.

These dishonest straw men you keep constructing are really piling up here.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:32

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:27

Can we add rude and misogynistic to the list?

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Could you point out where I called anyone misognystic or rude - unless of course you are insulting me (something which is only allowed on MN if its towards someone who dares go to go against the powers that be and their transphobic views).

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:32

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:20

oh i SEE.

So views are OK, as long as they're not about you.

Brilliant.

I did read your paragraph but given I don't think you could tell me my views if I asked, excuse me if I don't take you seriously.

Ironic that you call me dishonest while pretending to care about people you have diagnosed with a psychological condition, I've heard it all now.

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Gender dysphoria is literally a psychological condition. Do you not even understand the basics of what you are trying to lecture people about?

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:28

By the way - you are not mocking nutters on twitter. They couldn't care less what you think.

So? It's not about what they think.

but it is.

Your whole fear and anger about trans is based on their views - if it isn't, why do you constantly bring up the rape and death treats, when its not the vast majority of people doing it?

PomegranateOfPersephone · 26/06/2022 15:31

Have you quite finished completely derailing the thread

oh the irony 🤣

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:23

You're mocking a whole ideology based on the threat that 1 percent pose.

I see you don't read posts properly. The pp pithily said that you shouldn't mock 1% because of what 99% do. It was a bit of a zinger, I thought. But then I have a sense of humour.

Yeah, the mental health around trans is really funny.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:28

By the way - you are not mocking nutters on twitter. They couldn't care less what you think.

So? It's not about what they think.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:27

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:26

Ironic that you call me dishonest

It's not remotely ironic. We can add that word to "straw man" "disingenuous" and other words you appear to have an alternative definition of.

Can we add rude and misogynistic to the list?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:27

Again, this is a middle class movement which disproportionately affects working class women and women of colour.

This.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:26

Ironic that you call me dishonest

It's not remotely ironic. We can add that word to "straw man" "disingenuous" and other words you appear to have an alternative definition of.

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:26

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:20

Completely untrue.

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No, it’s really not. It’s for the saner reason not meant working class women are into this bullshit. They haven’t got time. Again, this is a middle class movement which disproportionately affects working class women and women of colour.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:23

You're mocking a whole ideology based on the threat that 1 percent pose.

I see you don't read posts properly. The pp pithily said that you shouldn't mock 1% because of what 99% do. It was a bit of a zinger, I thought. But then I have a sense of humour.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:20

Conflictedunicorn · 26/06/2022 15:16

To be fair, I think if every teenagers mum who got told this gubbins said ‘oh yes and I’m a non binary graygender demiboi and my pronouns are zee/zay, the teenagers would soon knock it off. It’s like warm your mum announces she fancies the same pop star as you, suddenly they’re not cool and never spoken again. As to these people being vulnerable, how do. You don’t see many BIPOC kids from the rough areas of Bradford coming out with these neopronouns, or working class white kids from Sheffield. They’re mostly middle class kids with no other struggles in their lives who want to be oppressed and marginalised but can’t cos they’re the wrong class and colour.

Completely untrue.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:20

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:15

We should not tar the 1% with the actions of the 99%, that’s true.

Excellent point.

But you are.

You're mocking a whole ideology based on the threat that 1 percent pose.

placewherewebelong · 26/06/2022 15:20

FemmeNatal · 26/06/2022 15:18

Because people at a funeral aren’t using their religious beliefs to take away women’s rights, aren’t trying to get people sacked for not repeating their shibboleths, and aren’t trying to lecture women on a (mainly) women’s website for not pandering to their religion all the time.

Your views are risible, they are harmful, they are child-like, poorly formed, incoherent, and deserving of no respect whatsoever.

And given your utter dishonesty, I should add that none of this has anything to do with treating people with gender dysphoria with respect as they work to deal with a serious psychological condition.

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oh i SEE.

So views are OK, as long as they're not about you.

Brilliant.

I did read your paragraph but given I don't think you could tell me my views if I asked, excuse me if I don't take you seriously.

Ironic that you call me dishonest while pretending to care about people you have diagnosed with a psychological condition, I've heard it all now.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/06/2022 15:19

Belovedfool · 26/06/2022 15:10

I will never not roll my eyes at gender ideology. I truly wish I could just roll my eyes at the whole thing whilst muttering "blinking kids, what will they think of next?" under my breath. I'd like it to be a minor irritation. Actually I'd LOVE it to be a minor irritation. But it's not. The tendrils of gender ideology have crept into my life via numerous little racks, and I'm about, thanks to the SNP, to lose my own rights to female only spaces.

The ideology is obliterating my single sex rights, right now, in 2022.

Damn fucking right I mock the ideology. What else can I do? My rights are being stripped away right in front of my eyes and I'm being told its mean and spiteful to be unhappy about it?

Yes. It's quite obvious how little people care about women.