Fck it. Just going to identify as agender as a GC feminist.

I give in. Just to shut @placewherewebelong up. The three letters were WTF. Happy now? Now please explain why they are transphobic or why your mind immediately jumped to me being a transphobe because I said I could think of 3 letters. You’ve really shown yourself there havent you?

I'd like to know where dogs and weather are transphobic.

Could you show me examples of this?

It would be quicker to show you examples of things which aren't considered transphobic. That won't take long.

Why do you expect me, a woman, to do your emotional Labour for you? Educate yourself. If you don’t know why these things are transphobic how can you call yourself a trans ally? Surely if you knew the slightest thing about transpeople you would have known exactly why all these things are problematic. Are you just virtue signaling?

It was bloody obvious what she meant.

Not to other people, it might not be. Maybe spell out what you think she meant and why you think it's "irrational fear or hatred of transpeople"

Could you show me examples of this?

I'd love to see your statistics. I think most people are like my viewpoint - they dont agree with mixed spaces and sports etc, but they dont agree with the mocking and taking the piss. What a shocking view to have.

If you say so.

It was bloody obvious what she meant.

The poster above who cleverly implied its simply about sex - thats transphobic. Claiming anyone who is trans must have gender dysphoria - transphobic. Mocking and laughing at someone because they are trans - transphobic.

trees- transphobic
weather- transphobic
biology- transphobic
women talking - transphobic
not centring trans people -transphobic
Dogs - transphobic
now tell me again as all these things have been labelled transphobic at one time or another why I am not allowed to mock this bullshit? If I said trees were a symbol of the patriarchy I’d deserve to be mocked, so why not if someone calls them transphobic? I thought transpeople wanted equal treatment?

I'd love to see your statistics. I think most people are like my viewpoint - they dont agree with mixed spaces and sports etc, but they dont agree with the mocking and taking the piss. What a shocking view to have.

were you not the author of the post about 3 letters?

What do you think she meant?

That’ll be the disingenuity, the twisting of others words, the goading, the insults and the outright lies.

I'm not an activist. I don't agree with mixed sports, Stonewall or mixed spaces.

Your next point?

Thankfully, you are not winning the argument. You might be on MN which is very wonderful, but the vast majority of people are in support of trans and against this form of "feminism".

No they aren't. Most people aren't radical feminists, but neither are they subscribers to your ideology.

Yes, the religious belief in a gendered / sexed soul. That is not the “concept of trans”, it’s an idiocy that activists like you have come up with relatively recently.

As for people’s views, You are having a laugh. Males are being excluded from women’s sports, organisations are distancing themselves from Stonewall, the government is speaking out in support of women’s rights to single-sex spaces.

The evil that you achieved in the shadows is being undone in full daylight, and I, for one, am very glad.

Yes, I think you're spoiling for a fight - that's the impression your behaviour is giving me. This is my personal opinion and I'm forming it based on the evidence I see before me. That's it, really.

D’you know, there’s nothing that all this gender identity stuff reminds me of more, than the hysteria after Princess Diana died. It’s like a whole generation of people have lost their collective heads to some kind of mass irrationalism.

Yes that's a really apt comparison. Except luckily there wasn't much social media then for people to whip themselves up even further into hyperbole.

Out of interest, if I took the "main" side in the debate but spoke in the same way to PP coming in with a different view, would you still think I was a troll?

No. You wouldn't. Youd do what Erek did and congratulate them.

I might have a totally different view, I've been no more or less abrasive than other posters, but I just have a different view. And that's allowed.

I might not respect or understand peoples views but I don't think they're trolls. The screenshotting thing is new to me and I honestly would think anyone who comes on a site like this that people need for a variety of reasons and trolls is a despicable human being.

Not that its any of your business, but no.

I took a break from all of my social media post lockdown. That OK with you?

I'm actually a songwriter and wrote one this morning about the horrendous treatment of women in the US. The big misogynist I am.

Why the constant suggestions I must be a troll? Because I don't agree with peoples views?

Have you just had a username changed by MN throughout the site, @placewherewebelong ?

"looking for these moments"? Do you think I got up this morning and thought, I know ive got nothing better to do with my life than go on MN and look for an argument.

I've gave as good as I got.

I've never screenshotted in my life on MN , to me its a safe space and I wouldn't regardless of how much I disagreed, I genuinely didn't know that is true.

I completely agree about safe spaces, which just shows how much you actually know about me. The problem is a decent debate can't take place because of how flippant and mocking PP are.

"
mocking the religious beliefs that are being deliberately promoted with the aim of eroding women’s rights is not an attack on trans people." playing word games I see.

Thankfully, you are not winning the argument. You might be on MN which is very wonderful, but the vast majority of people are in support of trans and against this form of "feminism". I don't see it changing in my lifetime, and I'm relieved about that.

I don't believe you. You have had some combative moments this afternoon and have been asked some uncomfortable questions, but please don't deny you weren't looking for those moments. You seem to be to be spoiling for a fight and you got one (or rather, several), so congratulations. That's why posters suspect you of screenshot hunting. It's rather common on here, I understand.

Your argument seems to be based on the "don't write things I decide are mean, as there's a tiny chance someone might read them and be upset". That's life. That is absolutely life. We cannot provide safe spaces. Women cannot even get access to a safe space in a woman's refuge for victims of domestic abuse. Words on a forum "might" upset someone..... ffs, get a bloody grip.

Again with the dishonesty / inability to read properly. I never said that trans as a concept was invented to erode women. I don’t even understand what eroding women would mean, I didn’t say it was invented to erode women’s rights either. Why so many lies? If you had any sort of valid point to make it’d be unnecessary.

You are lying about the meaning of phobia, too.

This is a major issue with you lot. As well the intellect problem you have this determination to change the meaning of common words to try to bolster your arguments.

It’s as though the think that the appendix to 1984 was a how-to manual rather than a warning.

Fortunately those opposed to you are better-educated, better funded, better people, and are winning the argument.

were you not the author of the post about 3 letters?