Julie Bindel & venue for MVAW talk in Nottingham

Organiser's account of what happened. Nottingham senior Councillors sound incapable of organising a piss up in a brewery. thecritic.co.uk/what-really-happened-in-nottingham/

Seconding any PPs who would like to see centralised crowd funding set up for this and similar actions so that we can leverage the best value out of our donations.

hey Julie, let us know when you need the steady flow of spare fivers

A council spokesperson said there were no plans to add anything to Saturday’s statement.

Looks like they're doubling down then.
Big mistake. Huge.

The Guardian has (finally) covered the story: www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/27/julie-bindel-to-sue-nottingham-council-after-aspley-library-talk-cancelled

Also thank you Baroness. Tireless and elegant campaigner.

Go Julie! Will dig deep for the crowdfunder.

Oof, that's one hell of a letter.

A letter from Baroness Nicholson to Councillor Adele Williams.

twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol/status/1541489943624794112?cxt=HHwWgIC-qfi7vOQqAAAA

Yes you do. marg it's quite simple.

1. Nothing about trans was on the schedule
2. Freedom of speech
3. Gender politics
4. Intimidation of LA and women
5. The law!

Apologies if my post on LF distracted from the thread's topic.

I am interested in whether Councils do have a right to refuse planned speeches on their premises on certain grounds, I don't know who is in the right/wrong here.

No its not 'shopped, here's a different view;
www.isopix.be/Photos-de-presse/Pride-Flags-On-Regent-Street-London-Uk-24-Jun-2022-4464599-st.aspx

Was that real? I took it to be photoshopped. Blinkin' heck, it's chilling if real. The heavy weight of ideology trying to crush reality dissenters.

The legal advice will probably be don't apologise or admit to anything untill legally compelled to do so.

Yes I imagine so. I expect JB will update re her dealings with them in due course though.

If the legal advice is any good the staff will be issued with an internal gag order limiting them to direct any and all who mention the subject to a few named staff in the legal department.

The legal advice will probably be don't apologise or admit to anything untill legally compelled to do so.

The legal team can't do much about the personal comments by elected officials. However their officers Insurance provider may have an opinion on what are official policy statements and which statements are the personal opinions of the elected members.

The Council twitter account appears to have issued positive PR statements and attributed the statements (and achievements) to individual elected members rather than a "We the Council". IMO that should be against the media policy.

Ah come on marg you know that you are conflating, twirling, dancing around issues trying to make something into something else.

We are women, not fuckwits! Your constant attempts to show of your superior attitude and knowledge are, as always, more amusing than taken seriously.

But yes, as @PipMumsnet derailers gonna derail! I could wish for a Mute option

Mmm! You are right, of course. It's just hard to think of this as all being very deliberate.

I delated that crap from my brain....🤯 now I’m angry again but it’s interesting to revisit in the light of all the flags that have appeared recently.

Will be interesting to see if Nottingham Council issue a statement apologising and admitting they were wrong and breached the law in an attempt to limit legal action by Julie - or whether they assume the legal action is coming whatever they do, so stay silent to not further dig their hole any deeper.

I guess their lawyers will be busy bees today.

I'm sure lots of people are waiting with bated breath to see what they do!

I don't actually care how many flags are put up for Pride events. But given everyone is arguing over what level of emotional response it's reasonable to have when you see the flags, let's consider this.

Some people have a lower tolerance level for large numbers of the same flag, on the same street. I don't feel it, but I don't think any of the people who do are bigoted. Including India. But if India's not bigoted, then nor is anyone who objects to equivalent numbers of a different flag.

I just watched this, it was an excellent piece from Sarah. So glad she was given a decent length of time to cover this, so she could be explicit and clear in all her points.

Both Andrew and Sarah highlighted how, once again, the trail leads back to Stonewall. Both pointing out that companies and organisations who allow themselves to be driven by Stonewall doctrine in this manner are putting themselves at legal, financial and reputational risk.

Perhaps Andrew Doyle could invite Ruth Smeeth (Index on Censorship) onto his show to discuss the censorship of feminists. She wrote a puff piece on Pride in her blog but says nothing about the silencing of women.

I still can’t quite believe that the Rainbow Dildo Monkey really happened. Was there any consequence from that? Did anyone get fired? Did they even apologise?

It occurs to me that public libraries are not doing a great job of making the case for themselves and their continued funding at the moment. I hope they manage to correct their course before it ends up like the BBC, with the entire institution under serious threat and most of their natural supporters feeling ambivalent about that.

The Andrew Doyle/Sarah Phillimore interview was excellent. Sarah is always so clear when she discusses these issues.

Rachel Rooney highlighting the hypocrisy and incoherence.

twitter.com/RooneyRachel/status/1541015340532076545?s=20&t=qm76Qr2vQZxy8vPiN2iPoQ