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TullipR going to sue NHS over poor care pre-sex-change procedure

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ChristinaXYZ · 24/06/2022 10:54

"Stephanie Davies-Arai, founder of Transgender Trend, a group advising parents on transgender children and young adults, said: ‘It is hoped this will force a re-think by the NHS about this kind of barbaric surgery on patients who are told by medics it will help them.

‘He has a very real case for compensation against the heath service. We believe he has suffered harm.’

His case has been taken on by lawyers in Liverpool. It centres on whether the NHS and its gender clinics adequately counselled him before the operation five years ago. The patient, in his thirties, was brought up in the North of England and has de-transitioned from being a woman to live as a man again.

The man says he is gay and his sexuality should have been discussed before the radical, irreversible gender surgery. ‘I have been castrated. That is the correct term,’ he says on his Twitter feed, which has 19,000 followers.

‘I cannot believe they [the NHS] were allowed to do this to me.

‘I was not even asked if I wanted to freeze my sperm, or have kids in the future.’ He does not want to be named because he is ashamed of how he looks. Instead, he tweets under the pseudonym TullipR.

Yesterday, he posted a picture of his huge bundle of medical notes which will be used by his lawyers to bring the case against the NHS."

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10947483/Anguish-young-man-sex-organs-removed-NHS-regretted-day-SUES-NHS.html

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achillestoes · 24/06/2022 12:23

It’s not good enough to say the patient was aware of the risks. That implies medical professionals have no ethical responsibilities at all and can do whatever a patient might consent to.

serendipitea · 24/06/2022 11:40

Many opinions on both sides, and some are saying the patient must have known what they were getting.

But, I don't think I have read about incontinence being one of the consequences of this surgery, in any of the cautionary tales I have read. if that is a rarely occurring but not disclosed risk, then it strengthens the argument for litigation, I think?

I am also curious that he decided to de-transition, I am wondering how that correlates with feelings about the success of surgery. Would he have de-transitioned if the surgery were closer to his expectations?

But, a sad story all around, and I wish him peace.

[And without wanting to derail the thread, I am often frustrated by poorly titled threads. When I moderated a list I would edit the titles to include in parenthesis the actual topic and not just leave some vague musing.]

ChristinaXYZ · 24/06/2022 11:28

Thanks @serendipitea that is frustrating. I did scan the threads but missed it. Mumsnet might delete but I am not going to ask them to because as you say the title may make people read this thread and learn about the case that have not clicked on the other vague one.

Perhaps we need a thread about thread titles :-)

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myuterusistryingtokillme · 24/06/2022 11:13

What you all said was coming
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4575439-what-you-all-said-was-coming

ChagSameachDoreen · 24/06/2022 11:08

So someone falls into the thrall of an ideology, insists on affirmation, and then sues the NHS when they get what they wanted but don't like it?

I'm afraid I'm starting to lose sympathy.

serendipitea · 24/06/2022 11:03

There is already a thread on this. Maybe this one should be deleted?

I wish people gave proper titles to threads (like you have here, OP) rather than the other thread where the title means nothing.