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What you all said was coming

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Pippinbird · 23/06/2022 22:24

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10947483/Anguish-young-man-sex-organs-removed-NHS-regretted-day-SUES-NHS

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Doyoumind · 23/06/2022 23:14

Yes, DM doing its usual thing and lifting the story directly from Twitter.

It's unfair to blame him as the whole point is he wasn't well enough informed or assessed. That's clear if you read the full details.

FemmeNatal · 23/06/2022 23:13

GromblesofGrimbledon · 23/06/2022 23:05

Seems unfair to portray it like this.

So many people who don't even consider themselves to be transgender think that modern medicine has reach a point where a penis or a vagina can be well replicated by surgery on the opposite sex. Programmes like I Am Jazz are mainstream. People don't know the reality of these medical interventions.

This man was suffering mental ill health like many people who are swept up in the transgender ideology. He thought it was what he needed to be happy. I imagine he did not think that he would be left in the state he has been left in.

It’d be interesting to understand the conversations that happened at the time.

In the UK, and on the NHS, I suspect that he himself had to argue forcefully and coherently about why the surgery was right for him, and that alternatives were offered which he rejected.

aweegc · 23/06/2022 23:11

..additionally the TRA movement is inherently homophobic so anybody who has internalised homophobia (or biphobia) will likely have that reinforced through involvement with the online groups.

dropthevipers · 23/06/2022 23:11

conflicted by this.i think -That's a tragic lifelong outcome which could have been avoided, I also think "what the hell did you imagine was going to happen once your knob was cut off, you fucking twat?"

FemmeNatal · 23/06/2022 23:10

Whatwouldscullydo · 23/06/2022 23:04

Its the drs job to explain and get informed consent from the patient. If the patient doesn't understand what is about to be done then the consent Is not valid.

But he asked for this exact surgery to be done. He is literally complaining that the surgery to remove his cock and balls removed his cock and balls.

aweegc · 23/06/2022 23:09

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RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 23/06/2022 23:07

Yes i agree grombles

BootsAndRoots · 23/06/2022 23:07

I've heard him on a podcast and much of what he said was true (as evidenced in this thread) that people feel sorry for female detransitioners but they don't for male detransitioners and they experience hatred.

He like the female detransitioners has been led down a one-way path, not told about the negative side-effects (for fear of medical practitioners to be seen as transphobic), and is now ostracised.

GromblesofGrimbledon · 23/06/2022 23:05

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Seems unfair to portray it like this.

So many people who don't even consider themselves to be transgender think that modern medicine has reach a point where a penis or a vagina can be well replicated by surgery on the opposite sex. Programmes like I Am Jazz are mainstream. People don't know the reality of these medical interventions.

This man was suffering mental ill health like many people who are swept up in the transgender ideology. He thought it was what he needed to be happy. I imagine he did not think that he would be left in the state he has been left in.

Whatwouldscullydo · 23/06/2022 23:04

FemmeNatal · 23/06/2022 22:58

Me too, it’s horrible, but it’s really not tenable for him to claim he didn’t know what they were going to do.

Its the drs job to explain and get informed consent from the patient. If the patient doesn't understand what is about to be done then the consent Is not valid.

achillestoes · 23/06/2022 23:03

It’s a really important principle that some mentally unwell adult people might be receiving inadequate treatment. This isn’t about perfectly healthy people deciding to have their organs removed. It’s about a social contagion that primarily affects people who are already unwell. Have some compassion.

nocoolnamesleft · 23/06/2022 23:03

That's not just gay conversion. That's gay conversion with thrown in mutilation and sterilisation. He may have been an easily led idiot, but he's still a victim. Poor man.

LemonSwan · 23/06/2022 23:02

I really hope this is just post surgery shock. I say that because I recently had a maternal request c and the moment the pain after surgery kicked in and the subsequent weeks of recovery I did have moments of regret thinking why did I opt to do this to myself. Thankfully now all healed and super pleased with it all and will be having an elective c again if ever pregnant but post surgery shock and recovery regret was real for me.

This was always going to happen one day to somebody but I really hope for this poor chap that it’s not him.

FemmeNatal · 23/06/2022 22:58

Floella22 · 23/06/2022 22:54

Harsh but true.
I do feel sorry for him though.

Me too, it’s horrible, but it’s really not tenable for him to claim he didn’t know what they were going to do.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 23/06/2022 22:58

I'm sick and tired of fighting this. Just let people be led by their convictions and pay the price when it goes to shit.

Adults might be a separate issue but children and young adults (wherever the threshold for that is) can not be expected to pay the price for this in the absence of:


  • appropriate assessment and mental health care (if necessary)

  • decent standardised techniques for these complex surgical interventions.

Georgeskitchen · 23/06/2022 22:57

Sad but predictable. The first of many, I fear

overnightangel · 23/06/2022 22:56

Cleanbedlinen12 · 23/06/2022 22:51

But how come the group that advised him to do it isn’t getting sued?

The point is, the appropriate evaluations and due diligence were not carried out, and those with a pro-trans agenda (looking at you “Mermaids” 😡) are trying to get such checks labelled as “conversion therapy”when the whole reason they are there is so there aren’t tragic stories like this.
But there will continue to be cases like this for as long as the whole “you’re transphobic!” narrative towards anyone who hasn’t drank the kool aid continues.

ElEmEnOhPee · 23/06/2022 22:54

I'm sorry but this was major surgery that he didn't have to have, did he not research it? I do feel sorry for him but I completely disagree with him suing the NHS for this.

Floella22 · 23/06/2022 22:54

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Harsh but true.
I do feel sorry for him though.

FOJN · 23/06/2022 22:53

That poor man, winning a court case will never make this right for him.

ChagSameachDoreen · 23/06/2022 22:53

I'm sorry, but I don't have all that much sympathy. What the hell did he expect?

I'm sick and tired of fighting this. Just let people be led by their convictions and pay the price when it goes to shit.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 23/06/2022 22:52

I agree with resentful

like many others i find this horrifying

FemmeNatal · 23/06/2022 22:51

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Cleanbedlinen12 · 23/06/2022 22:51

But how come the group that advised him to do it isn’t getting sued?

achillestoes · 23/06/2022 22:49

Awful. I question what he might have to go through in order to prove it.

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