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I love Lucy

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Theloftmonster · 23/06/2022 18:26

If you know, you know. Just wondering if you post here also?

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Igmum · 24/06/2022 19:33

This is terrible Lucy, so sorry to hear that, sounds like awful sexist admins. Thank you for all that you have done and yes, stick with the MN vipers

Ereshkigalangcleg · 24/06/2022 18:50

That's awful, Lucy, the fuckers.

iamlucyvanpelt · 24/06/2022 14:15

I am going to go back to my regular username now. It was nice talking to you, and if you want to know who I usually post as, feel free to PM me.

iamlucyvanpelt · 24/06/2022 13:40

Hello @bunnypenny. I'm pretty sure we have had drinks together! Hope you are well!

bunnypenny · 24/06/2022 13:37

Hi Lucy! What you do at ROF is sterling work, so thanks for opening eyes. Those fuck nuggets are triggered by your ability to change minds and speak sense and that’s why they do their best to bring you down. Keep buggering on, its making a difference and common sense will prevail.

a fellow Fette. 🙋🏼‍♀️

LaughingPriest · 24/06/2022 13:32

Wow, that's despicable. BTW make sure your MN account doesn't have an identifiable email address linked to it. There have been "issues" in the past.

TullyApplebottom · 24/06/2022 13:32

The mods are pretty comfortable with men harassing women on that site. But the men are delicate flowers and must be protected of course.

iamlucyvanpelt · 24/06/2022 13:29

Yes, there are some great people on there but also a lot of mouth breathers.

The reason I am banned is because I referred to a regular poster using his - very common - first name on the board.

I met this person a couple of times, 5 or 6 years ago. He's not a nice person. Unfortunately he knows my real name. Anyway, about a year and a half ago he spammed the board with my real name and what he believes to be my employer. The posts got taken down, but I emailed the site admins to complain and they didn't even reply. Then a couple of days later they were very active on the site deleting and banning people for using the C word. I commented asking why they were so concerned about that but couldn't care less about people being outed, and they blocked my account. I stayed away for a year. Since I re-registered, the same person has done the same thing at regular intervals, usually in the middle of bank holiday weekends when presumably he thinks the site admins will be slow to respond. Other posters - including some of the people I argue with about trans issues - are very good at hitting the report button and bumping other posts to hide the outy ones. But the site admins take fucking hours to delete the posts and ban the account.

Today he registered a new account with my first name in the title. I finally decided to retaliate and I said I might register one with his real name in. When that thread got pulled I posted another one saying, you've been warned, it's an eye for an eye now, so cut it out. When that got pulled I posted another one asking RoF Towers why posts containing just his first name got deleted in nanoseconds whereas they took hours to delete his ones containing far more identifying information. That was the one that got me banned.

I think I'll stick to Mumsnet!

CriticalCondition · 24/06/2022 13:27

I'm sorry to hear that, Lucy. I was actually reading ROF, it being Friday an' all, and your thread went pouf before my eyes. From that it looked like you were objecting to being doxxed? But instead of dealing with it and risk upsetting the chaps they decided to chuck out the difficult woman with opinions?
Plus ca change.
I'm sure you've opened a few eyes in your time there even if the utter knobs on the board continue to swim in the swill of their own misogyny.
Hope you can find somewhere else to comment.

TullyApplebottom · 24/06/2022 13:21

There’s some seriously messed up people on rof these days Luce. Bin it. It’s not what it was.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 24/06/2022 13:21

Anyway, now I am banned - for reasons unrelated to trans issues - and I think I will at the very least be taking a break.

You've done sterling work. You've plausibly triggered more changes of heart and mind that you'll ever know because people don't want the hassle of acknowledging it in public.

LaughingPriest · 24/06/2022 13:20

Btw when I read the OP I was wondering if it was some kind of "encounters" situation and you were fishing to see if someone you knew recognised a code word GrinWink

LaughingPriest · 24/06/2022 13:19

I just thought, you're lawyers, you're educated people. You work with words for a living. You know full well that "a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman" would never be a workable definition in any contract or piece of legislation. How can you continue to spout this nonsense?

Brava! After YEARS of this, I think for me, it's the dishonesty more than even the gross misogyny that I hate. Maybe because it's even less well concealed.

iamlucyvanpelt · 24/06/2022 13:14

I had a year long hiatus from RoF while I was on maternity leave and I only rejoined because I was lurking and I read so much nonsense from men about how trans women are women.

I just thought, you're lawyers, you're educated people. You work with words for a living. You know full well that "a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman" would never be a workable definition in any contract or piece of legislation. How can you continue to spout this nonsense?

So I registered a new account to debate on trans issues. I was hoping to change a few people's minds, but was also open to being persuaded by the other side of the argument.

The worst thing is that the people I have been arguing against are people I broadly agree with on other political issues. I've encountered ugly misogyny on RoF before, but not from that particular demographic. It's really opened my eyes to how much everyday misogyny is lurking just below the surface on the political left. It's depressing.

Anyway, now I am banned - for reasons unrelated to trans issues - and I think I will at the very least be taking a break.

TessaSmith · 24/06/2022 13:11

Say what? @iamlucyvanpelt I am utterly SHOCKED. Big hug.

MsTSwift · 24/06/2022 12:57

Dear god makes me relieved I walked away from my City firm and now work for myself!

Lucy deserves a medal. Skimmed that recent thread and felt my blood pressure rising just reading it. Utter thickos as well.

iamlucyvanpelt · 24/06/2022 12:54

Hello everyone. I hope I am not about to have a name change fuck up.

Thanks for the support!

I just got banned from RoF and am not sure whether I will register another account. It is an incredibly toxic place.

TullyApplebottom · 24/06/2022 12:07

BarryStir · 24/06/2022 11:54

I’ve just looked at it.

these people are LAWYERS?

Jesus Christ.

I know. I think they’re in a conspiracy with the Twitter QCs to trash the reputation of the profession.

Igmum · 24/06/2022 11:59

Yayyy Lucy! IANAL but read some ROF during the AB tribunal (probably directed from here). And yes, how on earth do the few sane voices put up with it? There are some utterly vile posters so FlowersCakeGinfor I Love Lucy and the others who keep the flag flying over there.

BarryStir · 24/06/2022 11:54

I’ve just looked at it.

these people are LAWYERS?

Jesus Christ.

TullyApplebottom · 24/06/2022 11:39

I think it’s had it to be honest. As I said there were always dickheads but also posters who were funny and original. That’s pretty much gone now. I think it’s dying in its arse so maybe just let it.

TessaSmith · 24/06/2022 11:33

Come back @TullyApplebottom ! We need more of us to turn the tide!!

Also, we should need a bespoke lawyer section in this corner of mumsnet. How the legal profession has become so enthralled of an ideology that misrepresents the law so badly is honestly beyond me. And how specifically the SRA and BSB are captured too. I frankly despair.

Anyway, back to ROF and Lucy. She is an incredible force of nature and uses a clear and cogent language against a barrage of garbage twaddle that is thrown back at her. I know that younger lawyer/aspiring weeks lurk in the forum so I have no doubt she is doing some sterling work getting other people to read the arguments I hope so anyway!!!

TullyApplebottom · 24/06/2022 11:28

I abandoned ROF when it became clear it is basically just incels/MRA types now. Weirdos and their sock puppets. It’s a shame because while there were always twats it used to be a laugh, and not as hostile to female posters.

picklemewalnuts · 24/06/2022 11:28

Well done Lucy, and all the other lucys (Lucies?) in their different fields. Flowers

TessaSmith · 24/06/2022 11:25

I couldn't agree more with all the above. She is a personal hero of mine too. The misogyny on that board is something something behold.

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