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Billy Braggism - please break it down for me!

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Bosky · 21/06/2022 13:40

New to this debate and I am finding it so confusing. When I was growing up we only ever knew one Billy Bragg but now they seem to be everywhere. Is it true that they are as common as people with blue hair?
twitter.com/search?q=%22billy%20bragg%22&src=typed_query&f=user

When I say "common" I don't mean "common", you know like Coronation St common, although the old Billy Bragg, the young one really, made a big thing about being common although there was only one of him then. Or them then.

Now he is very rich, so not common, but I think that's cis Billy Bragg because I do believe people when they say that Trans Billy Braggs are an oppressed minority and should be protected. Anyway, is it that common to have blue hair or is it a bit middle class really?

I haven't got anything against Trans Billy Braggs, honestly, I just don't know why people would want to do it? They're even telling kids in primary school now that they can identify as Billy Bragg. And you've got parents taking their kids to Drag Billy Bragg Time! 😱
twitter.com/BodmassX/status/1537870221855309825

It's just not age-appropriate. If adults want to play folk guitar, that's fine, but I still think they should get psychological help first.

I tried to find out more but its like they don't want us to find out what's really going on. The only definition I could find said, "Did you actually mean ballpark or bullfrog?"
www.definitions.net/definition/Billy+Bragg

I think that's a bit rude and perhaps explains why there's so much prejudice against Trans Billy Braggs. Just because cis Billy Bragg talks bollocks and can't sing for toffee it's not fair to assume that all Trans Billy Braggs are like that.

I mean, they can wear wigs and practice smirky-swaggering condescension all they like but you can tell Real Billy Bragg a mile off!
twitter.com/Serena_Partrick/status/1538587946622029824

Are we allowed to say "Real Billy Bragg" in here BTW? I don't want to get banned for being Trans Billy Braggophobic.

Billy Braggism - please break it down for me!
Billy Braggism - please break it down for me!
Billy Braggism - please break it down for me!
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Hagiography · 21/06/2022 14:50

Oh my god I've done a wrongthink, I'm so very genuinely sorry.

I meant 'zir'. Zhir has of course a completely different meaning:

www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Zhir

Means "Grease" in the Russian Language. it can also relate to a big fat, ugly woman that can be mistaken for a Hippopotamus.

I'll report myself for re-education and do better, immediately.

Hagiography · 21/06/2022 14:48

He looks like Robert De Nonbinero
Drives a Mitsubishi Zhir-o

balalake · 21/06/2022 14:36

Does Billy Bragg still talk about poetry with the taxman (or woman)? Still between the wars?

IcakethereforeIam · 21/06/2022 14:33

I'm not a record company executive but I know a Billy Bragg when I hear one Wine

Bosky · 21/06/2022 14:18

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 21/06/2022 13:52

I just think cis Billy Bragg needs to acknowledge his privilege and STFU when trans Billy Braggs are speaking. He needs to 👏stop 👏speaking 👏over 👏the 👏trans 👏com👏munity. 👏

And I don’t know if it’s allowed by mods but it’s not very polite to refer to him as Real Billy Bragg, and if you were a real ally you wouldn’t. 👀Trans Billy Brags are valid, and important. And also much better in every way than cis Billy Bragg despite being misunderstood victims. 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

No offence meant! Thank you for educating me, TastefulRainbowUnicorn!

I appreciate the emotional labour involved and I know I don't deserve it. I will try to do better!

I really want to be a good ally to Trans Billy Braggs. It's just that I'm so used to, you know, thinking of cis Billy Bragg as "real" Billy Bragg. I realise now that it's just that he was privileged to have been correctly assigned Billy Bragg at birth.

Love the hands clapping and the flags BTW. I hope one day I will have enough confidence to be like you. I'm crying a little bit now - so happy to have found my people! 😭

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BordoisAgain · 21/06/2022 13:56

Careful now, you know a bit of humour will not be tolerated for long!

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 21/06/2022 13:52

I just think cis Billy Bragg needs to acknowledge his privilege and STFU when trans Billy Braggs are speaking. He needs to 👏stop 👏speaking 👏over 👏the 👏trans 👏com👏munity. 👏

And I don’t know if it’s allowed by mods but it’s not very polite to refer to him as Real Billy Bragg, and if you were a real ally you wouldn’t. 👀Trans Billy Brags are valid, and important. And also much better in every way than cis Billy Bragg despite being misunderstood victims. 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️