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Falon Fox interviewed on Today show

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user75 · 20/06/2022 08:50

Why did this person get air time with no confrontation of the injuries they gave an opponent?
From Wikipedia During Fox's fight against Tamikka Brents on September 13, 2014, Brents suffered a concussion, an orbital bone fracture, and seven staples to the head in the 1st round. After her loss, Brents took to social media to convey her thoughts on the experience of fighting Fox: "I've fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength that I felt in a fight as I did that night. I can't answer whether it's because she was born a man or not because I'm not a doctor. I can only say, I've never felt so overpowered ever in my life and I am an abnormally strong female in my own right," she stated. "Her grip was different, I could usually move around in the clinch against other females but couldn't move at all in Fox's clinch ..."

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donquixotedelamancha · 20/06/2022 09:11

I don't think even Justin has a full understanding of the issues

I think that's just his interviewing style. He tends to probe but allow people time to say what they want, rather than more confrontational interviewers. Generally I find it very effective.

He does seem to do it a bit more with the batshit interviewees on this topic but I'm pretty sure that's a choice to allow their words to speak for themselves, rather than getting bogged down.

Where there is no one for the other side he's more combative. I think it was an interview with Beh Cohen where he really roasted him.

PaleBlueMoonlight · 20/06/2022 09:03

Clangyleg · 20/06/2022 08:57

Fallon was challenged about why they were saying that the FINA decision would result in actual harm to trans people. Trans people apparently should not be excluded as it is discrimination the same as black people. I was also surprised that the actual harm inflicted on their opponent was not brought up. The other speaker Karen Pickering was clear about why this is a scientifically based decision. And how fairness and inclusivity are not compatible.

She was very good. I do wonder though if someone will ever make the pont that by including transwomen in female sport you are excluding women and girls who do not get the chance to compete.

Transwomen could compete in men's sports if they were not ideologically opposed to recognising their male physiology (and many do).

PaleBlueMoonlight · 20/06/2022 08:59

It was quite a good interview. Like all these things Justin let stand some of Fallon's assertions that were incorrect or missed the point or were ideologically driven (comparing exclusion of transwomen to exclusion of black women), which is frustrating (I don't think even Justin has a full understanding of the issues), but overall I thought it was good.

Clangyleg · 20/06/2022 08:57

Fallon was challenged about why they were saying that the FINA decision would result in actual harm to trans people. Trans people apparently should not be excluded as it is discrimination the same as black people. I was also surprised that the actual harm inflicted on their opponent was not brought up. The other speaker Karen Pickering was clear about why this is a scientifically based decision. And how fairness and inclusivity are not compatible.

nauticant · 20/06/2022 08:55

The interviewer was Justin Webb, possibly the most GC-ish of the main news interviewers/presenters on the BBC.

I don't think Fallon Fox was chosen without thinking about their backstory they'd bring to the coverage.

CrossStichQueen · 20/06/2022 08:52

Was this the BBC radio interview?

In my opinion it's because the BBC hate women.

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