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More threats to womens sport - FIFA and FINA

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BatDuck · 19/06/2022 11:09

Today FINA are due to vote on their new trans inclusion policy following the Lia Thomas scandal. I was hoping for a good outcome until I saw Cathy Devine tweet that the following groups will make presentations before the vote:


  1. scientists

  2. human rights experts

  3. trans athletes


guess who’s missing?

And now I’ve just read FIFA are looking to loosen their approach so every man and his dog can identify into.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10930499/Experts-fear-FIFAs-make-easier-transgender-women-harm-female-football.html

I despair.

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ControversialOpening · 19/06/2022 16:24

Not 100% what I’d like:

The new policy will require transgender competitors to have completed their transition by the age of 12 in order to be able to compete in women's competitions.

… so still allowing male bodied people into female events.
However, that’s a lot better than I’d feared.

ControversialOpening · 19/06/2022 16:21

Only link I can find at the moment;

www.channelnewsasia.com/sport/fina-votes-restrict-transgender-participation-elite-womens-competition-2756951

yay!

BatDuck · 19/06/2022 16:02

This is incredible. They’ve decided that both trans athletes like Lia Thomas and 46XY athletes with DSDs will have to compete in Mens swimming. They have been at great pains to stress that no matter an athletes gender identity or expression they should be welcome in their sport. I can wholeheartedly support that.

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BatDuck · 19/06/2022 15:59

FINA has come through for women!

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Musomama1 · 19/06/2022 15:32

OP I despair of this too.

The only conclusion to be made is that sports is deeply mysogynistic. Women athletes are not being listened to at any level.

It's plain old sex discrimination, it literally boils my piss whenever I read these stories and actually puts me off supporting any sport - why should men's sports continue unchanged? Why are transmen continued to be allowed in the female category if we also include TW?

I'm not against TM in women's categories at all btw, it makes biological sense but just highlighting this underlines the lack of logic that the women's category accommodates self declared men as well as self declared women.

Truthlikeness · 19/06/2022 12:42

Grassroots football under FIFA already permits men to play women's football without any testosterone limits. I retired from the more competitive leagues in my mid-forties, but I increasingly see men playing in those games, They're usually easy to spot as they're a foot taller than most of the other players.

I now play in a low-level league that welcomes complete beginners. Women in their twenties and thirties who have literally never kicked a ball. Women who don't know the first thing about the positions or what they are supposed to do on the pitch. Women who are terrified about trying something scary and new but desperate to give it a go. Women who are looking for female camaraderie and support.

Introducing men into that environment will be an unmitigated disaster. The league has consulted teams on transgender participation, but I don't know what their final decision will be.

Sunflower987 · 19/06/2022 12:09

It's awful, the world has gone mad.

Artichokeleaves · 19/06/2022 11:50

achillestoes · 19/06/2022 11:39

Don’t despair. Voters will right this imbalance eventually.

I am getting exhausted at the half the human race who are passively watching all this happen in front of them, to them, and to their daughters, and have not yet managed to get off their bums and do anything about it. Despite endless attempts to wake them up to it.

Artichokeleaves · 19/06/2022 11:48

It's all just one long misogynist party. I've just seen Willoughby's gleeful tweet joining in with TW who having found a carefully provided gender neutral provided toilet with a note on the door to say females who needed a single sex space needed to walk to another part of the building - all carefully walked to that single sex toilet and used it to demonstrate that males will do whatever the fuck they want, could not give a shit about females excluded, and it's all about their control, their power, their right to take everything from females and no one can stop them. 'Just want to pee' my ovaries.

And this agenda is being enabled by a bunch of equally nasty misogynist idiots. It's male supremacism. That's it. That's all. Good old fashioned boring MRAs.

achillestoes · 19/06/2022 11:39

Don’t despair. Voters will right this imbalance eventually.

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