Standing for Women Bristol

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The video shows a 20second clip of Posie reading out a quote from someone else talking about Drag Queen Story Hour and how that is an example of the LGBT community attempting to indoctrinate or groom children (and saying she agrees).

The person who uploaded the clip entitled it 'Posie Parker The LGBT community are grooming children' so obviously the specifics were lost.

I think you would need to be able to set out a coherent understanding of what grooming is to be able to clearly articulate whether the allegation is true or not, and unfortunately on MN discussions about grooming are deleted as a matter of course.

I don't think gay people or the LGBT community in general are grooming children, by the way.

I think there is an important discussion to be had about any events involving children and how behaviours that are linked with actual grooming should be consciously avoided - that's safeguarding 101 - but again, we can't really have that discussion here.

the implication being that KJK is responsile for the behaviour of all the people who buy her stuff?

Doc Martens must be cancelled by now on that basis, surely?

yeah, there's 125 subscribers to the account Billi linked to. it's a 21 second clip.

who does this? get a (different) hobby people

can we have some receipts for that please?

I've the feeling, from another thread, that that is going to be a photograph of someone I've never heard of, wearing an Adult Human Female Tshirt.

@Billi77 I wonder, without looking, if you are linking to a clip from a longer item. And will it have been posted from a small account from someone nobody knows?

Can somebody who posts YT videos let me know if people who click on those links or view a video have their YT details collected?

hang on. She doesn't say homosexuals in that video, does she? she says 'the LGBT community'.

and specifically references drag queen story hour. which is now seen as the pre-schooler friendly intro to the concept of trans (weirdly).

so at the risk of offending you as a homosexual, I don't think she's talking about you there.

OK, so I don't think that doesn't mean what you thought it means. I expect you'll disagree.

now onto the most recent unsubstantiated slur you've thrown out

i think I’m finding the KJK alliance with the far right (eg Jean-François Gariépy, Tommy Robinson)+

can we have some receipts for that please?

Do you not see a problem with drag queen story time? Or children being exposed to kinks at Pride? Remember the monkey-with-a-penis costume, and an entire website being scrubbed?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=HYkTPgbii7Q

did this work? Thanks for your patience.

i think I’m finding the KJK alliance with the far right (eg Jean-François Gariépy, Tommy Robinson) particularly unsettling given recent results in the US. The world feels a very unsafe place for a homosexual woman right now. I’m genuinely terrified for my children.

also, I am by no means a zealot! Given the context I feel my fears are valid. I don’t want to feel silenced when questioning KJK courting of such figures for an otherwise valid feminist discussion about womens safety. I’m concerned where her funding is coming from too and where this could lead.

Helleofabore Are you trying to infer homosexuals have more tendency to ‘groom’ than heterosexuals ? If so can I please see evidence as that really is the first time I’ve heard anything of the sort.

I find when I have issues pasting something from the internet, it helps to paste into an email or similar, and then take from there and paste onto the post in MN @Billi77 you could try that?

I find it both interesting and UNBELIEVABLY frustrating. I guess there's little point arguing with a zealot, you won't change their mind.

It does make me fret about where my blind spots are

yup, can't see that i'm afraid - why not include a link rather than a screen shot? you won't have problems attaching that. I get that the flaky new and improved sute can be a problem!

Thanks for coming back @Billi77 nothing showing on my device, what did you Google? I'm a bit of a coward with searches, my kids can see what I've been googliing.

Not sure if this works but it came from a straightforward Google. Nothing appearing when attempting to paste

Thanks Rufus.

This has seemed like a rinse and repeat action of the claims being made on other threads such as the LGB Alliance threads. As in, claims made that are quite serious, but no evidence. On that thread some pretty deeply entrenched prejudices have been doubled down on despite it being constantly shown that there is no evidence.

I have re-read the thread this morning and can't see anything showing Billis claim that KJK has stated homosexuales are groomers.

Obviously I would like this claim back up as it is very serious so I am sure Billi will pop back at some point and provide the necessary.

I don’t think ive seen it helleofabore

im also not a megafan, or any sort of fan but what ive taken from that post is that if i ask for links or evidence or proof, however you want to term it then that makes me a fan

apologies if thats not the case billi

but i feel if i ask for a link or I disagree with your interpretation then thats what you’ll say

Have I missed the links to where KJK has called all homosexual people groomers?

Or that there are disproportionately more homosexual people who groom others compared to heterosexual or bisexual people?

I have dipped in and out of the thread so I might have missed it.

I am no mega fan of KJK Billi however I am curious as to what threat you feel she poses?

I will not submit and I'll be in Brighton for the Let Women Speak event 18 September 2022.
I've written to the Avon and Somerset (Bristol) PCC Mark Shelford to ask for an apology to the Let Women Speak attendees and copied in the Sussex PCC (Brighton) to ask them to do better.

As a homosexual I resent her calling homosexuals groomers. I think I’d resent this if I were heterosexual too. Are you ok with it then ? I could go on but doing so among her mega fans is like running into a brick wall.

I do have concerns for the Brighton event, the combination of a captured police - somewhere in the building that very week they'll probably be having some pointless meeting about inclusivity and pronouns... plus just how many aggressive TRAs and let's face it aggressive joyriders will want to come and have a pop.

Not sure what the answer is if Bristol have been shown to not take things seriously.

Thanks for all those posts @Bosky . The Police were warned by SFW about the counter protest (it seems wrong to call it that as SFW weren't holding a protest).