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Say ‘women’ not ‘people with ovaries’, Sajid Javid orders NHS as experts warn woke language puts patients at risk

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yourhairiswinterfire · 17/06/2022 07:38

-The NHS quietly removed terms like women from three cancer web pages.
-These are the pages for ovarian cancer, womb cancer and for cervical cancer.
-Collectively these cancers kill about 7,500 British women every year on average.

Sajid Javid is prepared to wage war against gender-free language after he demanded the NHS stop dropping the word 'women' from its online health advice.
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The minister, 52, has repeatedly said he does not agree with the health service removing the word from its ovarian cancer guidance webpage.
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NHS Digital bosses have been warned future changes to gendered language must be rubber-stamped by officials at Mr Javid's Department of Health, reports The Sun.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10925093/Sajid-Javid-orders-NHS-bosses-stop-dropping-women-online-advice-pages.html

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BoredofthisCrap7 · 17/06/2022 10:11

There HAS to be some legislation put in place that gender woo has NO place in the medical world.
We are dealing with sexed bodies, not identities. It has NO place in any medical setting except (perhaps) psychology.
However, I fear the NHS are totally and utterly captured by this.
My 71 year old CLEARLY FEMALE Mother had a stroke a few months ago. Guess what one of the FIRST questions they asked her while she was confused, unable to walk, and after being parked in A&E for 13 hours on a trolley because there was no space on the stroke ward?
"How do you identify?".

That's where we are now.
The doctor took one look at my face and apologised.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 17/06/2022 10:08

PomegranateOfPersephone · 17/06/2022 09:58

I am thinking I will write to my Tory MP and ask him to support Sajid Javid in keeping sex based language in NHS general information and communication with separate resources for trans and non binary identifying people.

I might send him a copy of this.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8864964/

Good idea Pomegranate.

PomegranateOfPersephone · 17/06/2022 09:58

I am thinking I will write to my Tory MP and ask him to support Sajid Javid in keeping sex based language in NHS general information and communication with separate resources for trans and non binary identifying people.

I might send him a copy of this.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8864964/

KittenKong · 17/06/2022 09:01

Of course some already are correcting and complaining

KittenKong · 17/06/2022 09:01

Too damn right. Women have to start correcting and complaining about this!

SallyLockheart · 17/06/2022 08:50

time to write to Mr Javid, I think, to double down on removing all gender free language from the nhs now, not just future stuff. Part of the problem is that the civil service/nhs etc have been so completely captured that they are unwilling to reverse back on what they are doing. The government needs to show real leadership on this and take back control if the "public servants " won't respect ministers directions.

SpinRiverSister · 17/06/2022 08:23

Agree with @lassof - what about NOW?

This nonsense is harming women NOW.

ErrolTheDragon · 17/06/2022 07:58

horseymum · 17/06/2022 07:51

'When men and women have finished their periods'. Another inaccurate page. Surely men bleeding from any orifice is a worry, not a period??

You've misquoted it. It says 'for men and for women whose periods have stopped'. However, the fault is their daft unclear wording. They could easily have phrased it unambiguously eg "for women whose periods have stopped, and for any man...."

Hoardasurass · 17/06/2022 07:57

🥳 Well done sajid Javid

Conflictedunicorn · 17/06/2022 07:57

To be fair, I think that’s more like a grammar mistake. It should be “men, and women who have finished their periods” I think

horseymum · 17/06/2022 07:51

'When men and women have finished their periods'. Another inaccurate page. Surely men bleeding from any orifice is a worry, not a period??

Say ‘women’ not ‘people with ovaries’, Sajid Javid orders NHS as experts warn woke language puts patients at risk
lassof · 17/06/2022 07:51

Just future changes? So the penis-owner pages are safe but the 3 most common female cancer pages are staying as ovary/cervix/womb owner cancers?

VanillaImpulse · 17/06/2022 07:47

Hooray! About time too! 👏🏼