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It's progress, duh!

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PaddleBoardingMomma · 14/06/2022 12:18

Also, pony love is pony love, ok?

🙃

(I'd like to point out this is being marketed as classroom wall material and childrens wall art, so there's that...)

www.etsy.com/listing/1022966458/love-is-love-guide-to-pride-flags-lgbtq

It's progress, duh!
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Cailleach1 · 14/06/2022 21:09

Apollo442 · 14/06/2022 13:04

Twink is very young male homosexual. Possibly even underage but the definition is a bit fuzzy (I suspect deliberately).

No! Twink is an Irish performer, otherwise known as Adele King. She is/was a mix of song/dance/comedy. She famously told her unfaithful (now ex) husband to 'Zip up your Mickey'.

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Fudgesunday · 14/06/2022 16:39

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 14/06/2022 16:23

Helleofabore · 14/06/2022 16:08

Should there be a tractor flag in with that pony flag? Or should I look both up?

Noooo Helleofabore Do not look this stuff up. Grin

Helleofabore · 14/06/2022 16:08

Should there be a tractor flag in with that pony flag? Or should I look both up?

IvyTwines · 14/06/2022 15:51

Pony as in Brony? That's been around for a while. There was a case a few years ago...well, I'm not googling the search terms but it involved a stable and he was identifiable through his My Little Pony tattoo. There was an article a couple of years ago in the Atlantic about their Nazi problem too (yes, this really is a thing).

nightwakingmoon · 14/06/2022 15:39

Fairislefandango · 14/06/2022 15:24

Does anyone else think that this narcissistic obsession with trying to define a small aspect of the self is a path to disaster? It's got to the point where it is just salami-slicing tiny aspects of the psyche, and for what? What does it actually deliver in terms of improving anyone's life in any real sense?

Maybe I am showing my roots here, but my God ... the amount of energy and time spent on all this, and what does it really deliver? Does it actually give you a better and happier life to constantly fret over whether you are gender queer or not, and which flag you need to put on your bloody social media profile?

The whole thing is a net: a sticky net, designed to trap and imprison.

100% this. It's also unbelievably tiresome.

Yes, agree with all this totally! A sticky net is exactly right.

And these are also exactly the reasons it is incredibly useful to a late-capitalist right wing economic culture, in which it is a huge boon for people to be endlessly obsessing and focusing in on themselves and their “identities” — and most especially, on how they can purchase stuff that displays their “identities”.

If you can render the population ever more self-obsessed, atomised, anxious and divided, that’s fantastic for late capitalism, because it prevents its populations realising the ways the system economically and socially exploits them.

Keeps them fragmented and inward-looking — instead of being politically “woke” in the original sense, in which you are “awake” to systemic injustice within the wider culture (not just race, but all the big systemic issues of inequality and crisis caused by capitalism — ecological crisis, global capitalism, the big systems of inequality in race, sex, culture, politics).

Fairislefandango · 14/06/2022 15:24

Does anyone else think that this narcissistic obsession with trying to define a small aspect of the self is a path to disaster? It's got to the point where it is just salami-slicing tiny aspects of the psyche, and for what? What does it actually deliver in terms of improving anyone's life in any real sense?

Maybe I am showing my roots here, but my God ... the amount of energy and time spent on all this, and what does it really deliver? Does it actually give you a better and happier life to constantly fret over whether you are gender queer or not, and which flag you need to put on your bloody social media profile?

The whole thing is a net: a sticky net, designed to trap and imprison.

100% this. It's also unbelievably tiresome.

nightwakingmoon · 14/06/2022 15:02

Ah, cultural appropriation is somehow A-OK if it means appropriating a mystical made-up poorly-understood fantasy version of some often dispossessed, marginalised and almost certainly gay people from another culture. That’s absolutely fine whereas doing yoga or eating noodles somehow is a terrible Western-imperialist crime. Didn’t you get the memo?

IcakethereforeIam · 14/06/2022 15:00

RocketPanda · 14/06/2022 14:52

Young bears are cubs, those approaching sexual maturity are called yearlings. Unless they are available as a tasty snack, pups have nothing to do with bears. I suppose what else can I expect from those who conflate a personality with an identity though.

I honestly don't know if this is actually about bears 🐻or some weird Stonewalled subsets.

Shortpoet · 14/06/2022 14:56

I’m surprised this isn’t being cancelled for cultural appropriation of Native American Two-Spirit.

Also, I that the gender queer flag uses similar colours to the suffragettes.

RocketPanda · 14/06/2022 14:52

Young bears are cubs, those approaching sexual maturity are called yearlings. Unless they are available as a tasty snack, pups have nothing to do with bears. I suppose what else can I expect from those who conflate a personality with an identity though.

nightwakingmoon · 14/06/2022 14:50

I’ve never seen a gay man actually “identifying” as a twink - it’s normally used in a kind of derogatory way - but I have seen young transmen doing so.

Madness.

IstayedForTheFeminism · 14/06/2022 14:39

Apparently there is a gay flag. It's blue/green/turquoise.

There's also flags for leather pride. Latex pride and well, all sorts. Madness I tell ya.

RadicalisedByMumzNet · 14/06/2022 14:37

GCRich · 14/06/2022 13:03

My partner identifies as big ender. He's not.

😆

CrossPurposes · 14/06/2022 14:33

GeorgiaMcGraw · 14/06/2022 13:06

"The minute you walked in the joint/ I could see you were a They of distinction/ safeguarding ender!//Hey Big Ender! (Bwah-bwah-bwah-bwah) Eeeennnnd some women's rights with me!"

So good!

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 14/06/2022 14:20

Apollo442 · 14/06/2022 13:04

Twink is very young male homosexual. Possibly even underage but the definition is a bit fuzzy (I suspect deliberately).

They tend to be slim as well

ds1 and his boyfriend were having an argument about it…thats how i know

( and what world said)

Worldgonecrazy · 14/06/2022 13:48

Twink is attractive, smooth skinned, young gay male.

The opposite is bear, which is large, fat, bearded gay make, often into bondage.

You also get pups, who are younger versions of bears.

FunnyTalks · 14/06/2022 13:43

Apollo442 · 14/06/2022 13:04

Twink is very young male homosexual. Possibly even underage but the definition is a bit fuzzy (I suspect deliberately).

Does a young male homosexual ever self identify as a twink? Or is the label put on him from someone older?

Torunette · 14/06/2022 13:40

Does anyone else think that this narcissistic obsession with trying to define a small aspect of the self is a path to disaster? It's got to the point where it is just salami-slicing tiny aspects of the psyche, and for what? What does it actually deliver in terms of improving anyone's life in any real sense?

Maybe I am showing my roots here, but my God ... the amount of energy and time spent on all this, and what does it really deliver? Does it actually give you a better and happier life to constantly fret over whether you are gender queer or not, and which flag you need to put on your bloody social media profile?

The whole thing is a net: a sticky net, designed to trap and imprison.

PaddleBoardingMomma · 14/06/2022 13:26

@GeorgiaMcGraw 🤣🤣 brilliant

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GeorgiaMcGraw · 14/06/2022 13:06

CrossPurposes · 14/06/2022 12:22

Seriously, what can bigender mean? Unless it's actually big ender.

And I don't want to think about pony.

"The minute you walked in the joint/ I could see you were a They of distinction/ safeguarding ender!//Hey Big Ender! (Bwah-bwah-bwah-bwah) Eeeennnnd some women's rights with me!"

Apollo442 · 14/06/2022 13:04

Twink is very young male homosexual. Possibly even underage but the definition is a bit fuzzy (I suspect deliberately).

GCRich · 14/06/2022 13:03

CrossPurposes · 14/06/2022 12:22

Seriously, what can bigender mean? Unless it's actually big ender.

And I don't want to think about pony.

My partner identifies as big ender. He's not.

MagpiePi · 14/06/2022 13:01

That just throws up (pun intended) more questions.
Why do lesbians get their own flag, but not gays?
WTF is Neutrois?

And it seems pretty exlusionary not to any other non-human species apart from ponies.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 14/06/2022 13:01

AllAloneInThisHouse · 14/06/2022 12:55

I will never understand why ally is on that list.
Why would you need a flag for minimum basic human decency?

Not much basic human decency in paedophilia. I'd refuse to be associated with anything that included paedophilia.

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