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James Esses - Employment Tribunal starts Tues 14 June

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 13/06/2022 19:50

Link, or screenshot for those who don't like links/twitter...

twitter.com/JamesEsses/status/1536311039565996033

James Esses - Employment Tribunal starts Tues 14 June
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User76745333 · 15/06/2022 21:40

Bundles will be done by the lead Respondent’s solicitor generally.

Cailleach1 · 15/06/2022 21:31

ickky · 15/06/2022 16:37

Someone kept joining with their mic unmuted.

Finished for today, reconvene tomorrow at 10am for Mr Esses Statement.

The core bundle has not been available and RMW will discuss with other solicitors this evening about making it available. She also referenced AB's Tribunal and said maybe they could do the same with this hearings bundle.

The bundles are not being prepared and made available by the same people as in the AB case, are they? Hope there aren't the same cock-ups. You'd think something would have been learned. Also, they should really be able to mute people.

dworky · 15/06/2022 18:07

Bloody hell, we can't fart on here without the bundle bungler smelling it.

Gabcsika · 15/06/2022 18:01

I didn't think my first post broke any rules (I read the guidlines several times) but OK. 😩

Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/06/2022 17:58

I reckon we had the Monitors join us this afternoon...just a feeling i had.

User76745333 · 15/06/2022 17:58

I expect the ET staff are quite surprised at the interest this is getting given that it is only a preliminary hearing and given the particular points that are being determined. There will be a different tribunal judge for the main hearing.

SpinMeARiver · 15/06/2022 17:54

Oh I expect Bobbin's on the button.

Gabcsika · 15/06/2022 17:43

User76745333 · 15/06/2022 17:31

Gabcsika Employment Judges use MN too... it's no longer there.

I'm fairly surprised it was there in the first place. The checks for judicial appointment are pretty thorough and it's never a good idea to have your political views or indications as to your intimate personal life on social media when you're in this role.

Absolutely. Hence why I was surprised.

I am totally not surprised it has gone already and am glad I could be of service.

Literally couldn't give two Fs about his orientation, and use of this kind of ahem material is quite common in the male population, but it did make me gasp slightly. And then chuckle!

Let's face it. Judges are also people, and also, there have been, and are worse things. I'm sure he is more than professional.

Mister EJ, if you're reading... 😁 .. we all love a SCANDAL don't we (EJ seems to love EastEnders too! ;))

User76745333 · 15/06/2022 17:31

Gabcsika Employment Judges use MN too... it's no longer there.

I'm fairly surprised it was there in the first place. The checks for judicial appointment are pretty thorough and it's never a good idea to have your political views or indications as to your intimate personal life on social media when you're in this role.

CheeseComa · 15/06/2022 17:29

Oh wow, interesting find Gabcsika, how embarassing! This reminds me of my DH's line manager (salary > €200.000) who regularly likes and even comments on extremely cringeworthy pictures posted by OnlyFans accounts on Twitter for everyone to see. 😬

As you said most of what he posts is fairly mundane, but the use of LGBTQ+ and tweets like the one attached (although it's hard to say without more context) make me think he might be more on the Stonewall side of the debate. Not suggesting he's unprofessional enough to let that (conciously) influence his handling of the case, obviously.

James Esses - Employment Tribunal starts Tues 14 June
Gabcsika · 15/06/2022 16:56

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TessaSmith · 15/06/2022 16:41

Thank you for stating the time @ickky !! I will be there!

Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/06/2022 16:41

ickky · 15/06/2022 16:37

Someone kept joining with their mic unmuted.

Finished for today, reconvene tomorrow at 10am for Mr Esses Statement.

The core bundle has not been available and RMW will discuss with other solicitors this evening about making it available. She also referenced AB's Tribunal and said maybe they could do the same with this hearings bundle.

Thanks ickky. So much is lost without the visual element.

SpinMeARiver · 15/06/2022 16:40

Look forward to the Bobbin's latest book, 'Setting Bundle Precedents in Online Tribunals'.

ickky · 15/06/2022 16:37

Someone kept joining with their mic unmuted.

Finished for today, reconvene tomorrow at 10am for Mr Esses Statement.

The core bundle has not been available and RMW will discuss with other solicitors this evening about making it available. She also referenced AB's Tribunal and said maybe they could do the same with this hearings bundle.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/06/2022 16:29

I didn't catch what EJB said about ejecting a participant...

CheeseComa · 15/06/2022 16:24

Thank you for the thread and keeping those of us who can't watch live up to date!

This judge does seem to use Twitter for a change. A quick look at his tweets makes me think he probably isn't gc, but hopefully far too professional to let his own views on the subject (if he indeed does have any strong views on this at all) cloud his judgement in any way.

Lio · 15/06/2022 16:13

Is someone delivering milk bottles in the background? Tinkly clonkly.

ickky · 15/06/2022 16:09

ST has gone to the dark side again.

dworky · 15/06/2022 16:02

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Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/06/2022 15:58

Howappropriate · 15/06/2022 15:57

Catch up with Mumsnet break!🖐😀

Indeed!

The ultimate comfort break. 😉

Howappropriate · 15/06/2022 15:57

Catch up with Mumsnet break!🖐😀

Motorina · 15/06/2022 15:57

CatsOperatingInGangs · 15/06/2022 15:50

Watching this ET makes me realise just how good EJ Goodman was at managing not just the IT but the people too.

In all seriousness, I learned a lot which I applied in my latest hearing. She was good!

Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/06/2022 15:55

I see. Thanks ickky.

ickky · 15/06/2022 15:55

Ameanstreakamilewide · 15/06/2022 15:53

Are participant's being silly with the chat room?
I've only got audio, at the moment.

RMW accused someone of making noise during the break, that person said they did not and are not sure why RWM has singled them out.