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James Esses - Employment Tribunal starts Tues 14 June

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ifIwerenotanandroid · 13/06/2022 19:50

Link, or screenshot for those who don't like links/twitter...

twitter.com/JamesEsses/status/1536311039565996033

James Esses - Employment Tribunal starts Tues 14 June
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dworky · 16/06/2022 11:07

Oh no we're not

ickky · 16/06/2022 11:07

FFS another break.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 16/06/2022 11:07

Another 20 minute break...

dworky · 16/06/2022 11:06

And we're back in the room

Gabcsika · 16/06/2022 10:57

Moira Robin "Closed session will be short" White.

Me - 🥱 😴

tigertactics · 16/06/2022 10:57

RMW: It won't take long...

Ameanstreakamilewide · 16/06/2022 10:55

Indeed.

dworky · 16/06/2022 10:53

Ameanstreakamilewide · 16/06/2022 10:26

What a steaming great hypocrite!

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Male entitlement.

GCRich · 16/06/2022 10:49

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:34

And I just don't get the bundle issues - I know they are complex documents, but making them is part of someone's job. If I turned up for my job really unprepared, without the necessary equipment etc. I'd be considered unprofessional so I don't accept that this level of preparation for the tribunal is respectful of the process

I presume bundles are expensive to put together - spending a couple of hours getting them right must cost a lot.

HOWEVER, not getting the right costs much much more - at the very least it costs a couple of hours of work for everyone in the room - the tribunal, the experts, both side's barristers, participants etc etc.

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:49

I quite like the voice, it makes me feel like I'm in an episode of Star Trek!

TessaSmith · 16/06/2022 10:42

Thank you @Chrysanthemum5 ! I have never waited it out before. I have put the volume right down to avoid getting mad with the constant stream of ... "waiting for the conference host to join, if you are the host.."

Ameanstreakamilewide · 16/06/2022 10:39

I agree, Chrys.

If i repeatedly performed like this at work, my 1-2-1s/performance reviews would be shameful, and rightly so.

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:36

I believe so @TessaSmith that was what happened in the AB tribunal

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:34

And I just don't get the bundle issues - I know they are complex documents, but making them is part of someone's job. If I turned up for my job really unprepared, without the necessary equipment etc. I'd be considered unprofessional so I don't accept that this level of preparation for the tribunal is respectful of the process

SpinRiverSister · 16/06/2022 10:30

I don't know @TessaSmith, sorry - I'm relying on TT today.

TessaSmith · 16/06/2022 10:29

Just to confirm, if we stay put, we will be let in automatically, correct?

Ameanstreakamilewide · 16/06/2022 10:26

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:24

RWM has a right cheek asking someone else to make their bundle easier to use!

What a steaming great hypocrite!

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:24

RWM has a right cheek asking someone else to make their bundle easier to use!

Ameanstreakamilewide · 16/06/2022 10:20

I would like to have been a fly on the wall to that dressing down!

GCRich · 16/06/2022 10:18

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:07

More bundle shenanigans

I was in a Tribunal yesterday. At the start of the hearing one of the barristers was forced to (1) admit he produced the bundle; (2) apologise for the state of it; and (3) refer to it's unhelpfulness as he tried to guide the Tribunal through a document that had seemingly had it's pages radomized before putting in the bundle. In my very limited experience badly put together bundles are the norm, but when the bundle you've produced goes beyond the normal "a bit crap" and into "what the hell is this" territory you really do get the Tribunal's backs up.

Ameanstreakamilewide · 16/06/2022 10:18

SpinRiverSister · 16/06/2022 10:12

Is this more late disclosure drama? Can't work it out from TT. (Not their fault, I hasten to add.)

I only caught the tail end of EJB's comment, so I'm confuzzled, too.

SpinRiverSister · 16/06/2022 10:12

Is this more late disclosure drama? Can't work it out from TT. (Not their fault, I hasten to add.)

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:08

I think AR has the patience of the saint - although I'm fairly sure I saw her give a tiny sigh when RMW insisted on the private discussions on the bundle

chilling19 · 16/06/2022 10:08

Bundles!

Also I wish the person typing would mute

Chrysanthemum5 · 16/06/2022 10:07

More bundle shenanigans