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Drag Queen Story Time

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LizzyStrata · 13/06/2022 10:33

First time posting here, so not sure of the etiquette. My apologies if this is the wrong place to raise these concerns.

Reading Borough Council is planning to hold Drag Queen Story Hour events in our libraries during the summer holidays. I’ve written to my MP, my councillors, and the Head of the Library Service to raise concerns. I think drag is entirely inappropriate for children, as it is a form of adult entertainment, highly sexualised and misogynistic, that blurs boundaries and undermines safeguarding.

The response Ive had is simply that they have received very few complaints so no reason to cancel.

Has anyone had any experience of tackling their local library over this issue? Grateful for any tips.

Also, if you live in Berkshire ,would you be willing to write and share your concerns?

thanks!

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Helleofabore · 06/08/2022 12:05

Sorry? A library has 5 security staff on the door and janet assured us that is normal… like a theatre is equivalent to a library?

ok.

GoodJanetBadJanet · 06/08/2022 12:01

I'm at leeds central library. There are about 5 security staff on the door checking bags. Very welcoming for dc 🙄
Lots of public venues do that, it's completely normal.
Did when we went to the pantomime at Christmas, did when we went to a children's theatre show a few months ago.
Didn't see anyone, parents or kids alike batting an eyelid at it as the queue to get in was moving

Lockheart · 06/08/2022 11:27

Sexdoesmatter · 06/08/2022 10:32

I'm at leeds central library. There are about 5 security staff on the door checking bags. Very welcoming for dc 🙄

I'm not really surprised. Given the nature of the protesters on both sides, the chance of things getting out of hand is not small.

Freedom90 · 06/08/2022 11:09

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Sexdoesmatter · 06/08/2022 10:32

I'm at leeds central library. There are about 5 security staff on the door checking bags. Very welcoming for dc 🙄

FrancescaContini · 06/08/2022 07:51

Whose*

FrancescaContini · 06/08/2022 07:50

Cheekymaw · 06/08/2022 04:10

ValancyRedfern

I’d run a million miles in the opposite direction to keep my children away from a man who’s genitalia is so clearly visible through his clothing, and who’s obviously enjoying this fact.

Cheekymaw · 06/08/2022 04:10

ValancyRedfern

Drag Queen Story Time
MarthaOnTheRocks · 05/08/2022 11:31

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Helleofabore · 05/08/2022 11:22

Yet one side of the 'debate' constantly warned of this whilst the other supported their work with constant "well Hitler thinks the sky is blue too" type remarks.

Yes. It is said to drive home the point that just because your point of view coincides on one particular point, you are not actually aligning with that group or person.

Not sure what you think your point is.

Do you think that people using weak and meaningless arguments such as ‘look at who also has your point of view’ are attempting to do anything but silencing opposing views?

Would you prefer instead that women answered differently, maybe instead pointing out all the horrific examples that people who support the prioritising of another groups rights over those for females as who those people’s views align with? Would that have been better?

Shall I give you some examples so you can judge whether making a retort of ‘well x thinks the sky is blue’ is better or worse?

Happy to. I have some quotes from transitioned males that show clearly their contempt for all females in their misogyny.

Do you think maybe one group of people can stop trying to align feminists with right wing extremists? Considering the likelihood of the many left wing women would change allegiance as suggested is ridiculous to even mention.

But do continue to attempt to paint those who declare feminists as being either aligned with right wing groups or responsible for those group’s actions as being righteous. Because it gives readers another example of the inane tactics used in an attempt to discredit feminist everyday. Well done.

Musomama1 · 05/08/2022 11:00

I wish the far right wasn't getting involved. It's just a turf war between the black pampers and conspiracy theorists. News articles are only focussing on the far right groups, when by far most people quietly objecting will be anything but, just reasonable people from any political group or none. These people are the most persuasive but aren't getting a look in now.

Also, we can see that the TRA group are rent a mob that go down and yell insults and intimidate the Standing for XX groups - this isn't getting reported either that both groups are problematic.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 05/08/2022 10:38

socially conservative authoritarians

Yet one side of the 'debate' constantly warned of this whilst the other supported their work with constant "well Hitler thinks the sky is blue too" type remarks.

You’d think people who are opposed to “socially conservative authoritarians” would try to avoid boosting support for them by aggressively recruiting Mx Moose Knuckle to read stories to other people’s children. DQST is an absolute gift to socially conservative authoritarians.

But it’s not as if the men’s sexual rights authoritarians are any better. They’re two sides of the same oppressive coin, and they can all fuck off to the far side of fuck.

mrshoho · 05/08/2022 09:21

It's never been more important than ever for groups such as the LGB Alliance to exist and survive. Despite Mermaids doing all they can to wipe them away and bankrupt them with pointless legal cases. The trans movement know once the piggyback on the LGB community is taken away so to is the support they achieved in such an underhand way. Allison Bailey and others could see this way back when they realised an alternative to Stonewall was needed to support the LGB community.

When far right groups are involved with protesting it often plays into the trans activists hands with claims of homophobic abuse. You can see it in the way news reports are written turning the protests into hate crime against LGBT minority groups. We need to keep plugging away that it is the Drag/trans element that has no place in libraries and schools.

OldCrone · 05/08/2022 09:06

NewBootsAndRanty · 04/08/2022 21:48

And nuns!

Co-organising counter protests are the"Trans Pennine Travelling Sisters, a group of nuns who support LGBT+ communities."

I believe they're an offshoot of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, so not quite the kind of order that most people might expect...

Does that reporter think these are actual nuns?

A mission of queer travelling nuns serving LGBT*IQA communities along the Trans Pennine way. Founded by Sr Polly Amarosa of the Blessed Merci Beau Cul and Bona Aris

She briefly thought she might like to be [a nun], but realised the Pope wasn’t ready for shaven-headed, pagan-goddess-worshipping, manly bisexuals who furiously moved church pews around and advocated the benefits of lots of sex.

Sr Polly’s name is multilingual – English, French and Polari – half of it says she is full of love for the world, the other half just says ‘nice arse!’ more than once.

pollyamarosa.blogspot.com/

Polly Amarosa is, of course, male. It says this on his 'about me' on his blog.

freepeach · 05/08/2022 08:49

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BernardBlacksWineIcelolly · 05/08/2022 08:36

I recall wayyyyyy back in around 2016 when I was trying to get my head around this stuff, posters here predicting that socially conservative authoritarians would use all this nonsense as an excuse to discriminate against people of their choosing.

and lo and behold it is happening. I kind of wish you lot weren't so good at predicting the future 'cos some of the things you say are scary

Helleofabore · 05/08/2022 06:58

’peaceful’ protests? From these supporters? I doubt it will remain peaceful at all if the other group turns up. But maybe the Leeds protests will be different. Maybe, just maybe they will indeed be peaceful.

Ramblingnamechanger · 05/08/2022 05:17

And if I see LGBT plus offered as justification I will explode. This has absolutely nothing to do with the L, and very little to do with the G, or even the T. Why not just advertise the events as cross dressing men taking the piss out of women ? There are plenty of performers out there who need work and aren’t performing fetishistic woman face. Young lesbians are not going to be influenced in a good way by these so called role models, neither is anyone else frankly.

NewBootsAndRanty · 04/08/2022 21:48

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And nuns!

Co-organising counter protests are the"Trans Pennine Travelling Sisters, a group of nuns who support LGBT+ communities."

I believe they're an offshoot of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, so not quite the kind of order that most people might expect...

littlesusan · 04/08/2022 21:37

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NewBootsAndRanty · 04/08/2022 21:30

www.leeds-live.co.uk/news/leeds-news/leeds-rallies-protect-drag-queen-24651425
Looks like this weekend will be interesting..

awwbiscuits · 04/08/2022 20:41

JaffaCake365 · 04/08/2022 12:11

Norfolk said no thank you to Drag Queen storytime: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-62406654

They've come up with a new date unfortunately ...

www.northnorfolknews.co.uk/news/new-titania-storytime-planned-9189466

BootsAndRoots · 04/08/2022 20:30

A drag queen explaining why drag isn't for children:

FrancescaContini · 04/08/2022 20:18

I sometimes wonder at the reading comprehension abilities of some posters here. The article is actually written very simply.

TheBiologyStupid · 04/08/2022 20:03

FrancescaContini · 04/08/2022 19:53

This isn’t what he’s saying.

Absolutely. He explicitly puts the safeguarding of toddlers and other young children first and foremost in his piece.