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Drag Queen Story Time

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LizzyStrata · 13/06/2022 10:33

First time posting here, so not sure of the etiquette. My apologies if this is the wrong place to raise these concerns.

Reading Borough Council is planning to hold Drag Queen Story Hour events in our libraries during the summer holidays. I’ve written to my MP, my councillors, and the Head of the Library Service to raise concerns. I think drag is entirely inappropriate for children, as it is a form of adult entertainment, highly sexualised and misogynistic, that blurs boundaries and undermines safeguarding.

The response Ive had is simply that they have received very few complaints so no reason to cancel.

Has anyone had any experience of tackling their local library over this issue? Grateful for any tips.

Also, if you live in Berkshire ,would you be willing to write and share your concerns?

thanks!

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NewBootsAndRanty · 06/08/2022 18:26

Just to pick up on the SWP mention.. they run Stand Up To Racism, who co-organised the Leeds drag queen support protests.

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wrt to this and your other comment, I can see several Patriotic Alternative posters and a very large banner with something written across the foot that I can't quite read but may also be associated with them.

I would think, and I may be wrong, that this is a similar scenario to the one that I described with SWP and various events. That these are people who've positioned themselves for a photo op to publicise themselves and their allegiances and they've negligible interest in the actual event.

As a general point, I'd be rather surprised if anything above a comparative/scant handful of people who are opposed to DSQT would be signed up to the wider political philosophy of Patriotic Alternative. Looking at the photographs, I can no more pick out the parents on either side of the 'opposing' faction photographs than the other. I can say I'm surprised at what seems like a greater presence of men than women in one of those photographs (unless it's just the angle).

NewBootsAndRanty · 06/08/2022 17:45

Disappointing lack of nuns in these pictures.

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 06/08/2022 17:04

It's more obviously TRAs in this shot, very similar crowd to those protesting KJK's events.

I'm reluctant to think anyone can summarise rather than speculate as to people's views based on photographs of a crowd. I've been on demonstrations that were reported as SWP because 6 people turned up with placards and made it seem like they'd organised the event. Photographers obliged by taking shots that emphasised six these people in a crowd of several thousand.

The above photographs aren't in line with my impression of previous protests where the ones that I'd seen involved masked people dressed in black to resemble ninjas etc.

Funny how libraries cancel the likes of Julie Bindel after one complaint but drag story time survives all manner of demonstrations. Surely libraries / other venues won’t want to be bothered with this level of demonstration on a regular basis.

It does seem to be very skewed. So many academics have been disowned by their own unions who may even actively support action against them.

For an example otherwise, I can only point to NSPCC's initial support and defence of some questionable behaviour from a member of staff.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/childline-the-nspcc-and-the-gender

Signalbox · 06/08/2022 16:49

Funny how libraries cancel the likes of Julie Bindel after one complaint but drag story time survives all manner of demonstrations. Surely libraries / other venues won’t want to be bothered with this level of demonstration on a regular basis.

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FrancescaContini · 06/08/2022 16:35

Sexdoesmatter · 06/08/2022 12:06

Yes, because the security guards had nothing to do with adult sexualised story time. Or mysoginistic parody of women story time 🙄. They checked my daughter's bag - it had her teddy in it

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baddaytoquitsmoking · 06/08/2022 16:00

I went to the Leeds protests in a reporting capacity today. Not affiliated with any groups, purely on a solo mission.

I'm gonna be writing it up ready to go tomorrow, so shares and circulation boosts would be greatly appreciated.

No1detectiveagency · 06/08/2022 15:40

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ScreechingEchoChamber · 06/08/2022 15:34

Hm. I think feminists are best advised to give all this a bodyswerve. It's not helpful for children. The confrontation only further entrenches everyone and nobody listens to each other. Lots of unsavoury groups there for a fight, as far as I can see.

TopKnotch · 06/08/2022 15:30

Really shocked by the framing of all of this by Leeds Libraries and Aida H Dee's social media.

It is really, really scary to see that the library service has switched off commenting on SM.

How can it be that public services cannot understand that the voices raising questions about this should be at least listened too?

The pride flags festooning the library on the same weekend that the Julie Jarman articles tell us that those flag should signify to women that their boundaries are being breached?

KittenKong · 06/08/2022 15:17

Seems like some people have been on lockdown for too long and have been on social media too much. Whipped up by ‘outrage’ and looking for a fight. Women are always a good target.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 06/08/2022 15:14

Large turnout of TRA's trying to stop parents protesting, but the police have cordoned them off.

It's plausible that a number of them


  • are parents themselves

  • aren't TRAs but are present for other reasons or have been taken in by the forced teaming with gay rights.

Cheekymaw · 06/08/2022 15:07

At the DQSH in a city in Hampshire yesterday, a man on his tea break from work tried to use the library to borrow some books for going on going on holiday and wasn't allowed in. Everything stops for DQSH. Never mind the council tax /tax ppaying residents. I also received a lovely email from my Unison Women's rep(luckily I left a few weeks ago when they voted against the Nordic model without most of their membership being aware of this)requesting that I protest this bunch of bigots and fascists . Unison can do one . Pity we have the extreme right protesting DQSH. But they can sense a nonce a mile off for obvious reasons.

Sexdoesmatter · 06/08/2022 14:51

We popped back and were really surprised to see how many people were outside. Quite a few police and security people there. I've written a further letter of complaint to Leeds libraries.

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OldCrone · 06/08/2022 12:55

Helleofabore · 06/08/2022 12:22

Hey Sexdoes,

How many people attended the event there today?

It's on this afternoon. Starts at 1.30.
en-gb.facebook.com/leedslibraries/

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Sexdoesmatter · 06/08/2022 12:29

Helleofabore · 06/08/2022 12:22

Hey Sexdoes,

How many people attended the event there today?

No idea sorry. We popped in first thing to get a book and don't know what's happened since

Helleofabore · 06/08/2022 12:22

Sexdoesmatter · 06/08/2022 10:32

I'm at leeds central library. There are about 5 security staff on the door checking bags. Very welcoming for dc 🙄

Hey Sexdoes,

How many people attended the event there today?

GoodJanetBadJanet · 06/08/2022 12:11

? A library has 5 security staff on the door and janet assured us that is normal…
It is normal to have several security on the door checking bags when you go to public events, including family oriented ones.
Nothing strange about that.
Like a theatre is equivalent to a library? Ok
Yes, as in its holding a public family event - not sure why that's hard to understand?
There'll be people checking bags at a public event.
Maybe not so much when there's just the odd one or two person trickling in and out on a random usual day.

Sexdoesmatter · 06/08/2022 12:06

Yes, because the security guards had nothing to do with adult sexualised story time. Or mysoginistic parody of women story time 🙄. They checked my daughter's bag - it had her teddy in it

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