Drag Queen Story Time

Thank you - that's a great article.

An eyewitness account of the Leeds one yesterday, from @baddaytoquitsmoking who posted below.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/wont-somebody-actually-think-of-the

Thanks, I've tried and failed to find their website/blog.

Went under the name "Maneater", I believe Screeching.

Just emailed Wokingham Libraries and my local councillors. I pointed out the possibility of protest with risks to customers as well as the feminist criticisms of DQSH.
See if I get any responses.

Can anyone tell me who the 'DJ' drag queen was on the Radio 4 show? I would like to look up their blog mentioned.

I'm not going to use it, I'm not on twitter or Facebook or anything like that. But I like Moley's work and the different message the graphic sends with the changes. PA can do one, so far as I'm concerned.

I am really keen on @Wate telling us what that version they have posted on a few twitter profiles actually means in their own words.

I thought Moley did the amended version?

@wate I've never seen either of those amended graphics, I like them. Thanks for bringing them to my attention.

What is your interpretation of the one you have posted examples on Twitter profiles? And is it the original and the other one a copy? Have you any history about which was first?

Ah, well that's cleared that up. I was expecting to recognise a named GC account using this image, with perhaps an explanation of what it represents.

You meant very small or modest GC accounts (the PK one that has >2K followers) with names that I don't know. The PK one is however, followed by 10 accounts for which I do recognise the name. I fully accept that we will all recognise different names and there's a cognitive disconnect there.

I tried this advanced search for interaction and got no returns for the biggest names that I recognised. (I didn't search on likes or such.)

(from:FondOfBeetles) (to:MsPeacheeKeen)

(from:AudreySuffolk) (to:MsPeacheeKeen)

(from:MenAtWork_MC) (to:MsPeacheeKeen)

For completeness, I also ran

(from:ALLIANCELGB) (to:Cyberbloke)

However, thank you for this.

• It's an insight as to what is considered as social media evidence gathering by some people and the robustness of inferences made from it.


• It let me tweak my rusty Twitter AS skills which I don't use enough to remember them automatically.


• I did end up in a byway as to the origins of the image which seems to have been adapted/adopted from various organisations. I'd not be surprised if the history goes back further than I've identified and lies in another source but there's a limit as to my curiosity about this.


• I wonder how much due diligence people put into researching an image before adopting it as a banner.

They are satirical edits of the original by Mole at the Counter on twitter.

"Can someone please edit it so the man and woman and umbrella are the rainbow cours protecting people for the men's rights activists gender ideology pink, white and blue colours"

@moleatthedoor please I need this

🙏🙏🙏

twitter.com/UKHomosexual/status/1549676099575189506?t=Dm2NSf5tDCSdCNMlUdyeEA&s=19

"Could you do one with the umbrella in the suffragette colours?"

twitter.com/Helinhandbasket/status/1549827414326484993?t=v_XoapNcF-8EP1LY3VDSEg&s=19

I was expecting someone I'd recognise as GC but fair play, you've located an account with 316 followers garnered over 10 years who has had what looks like a striking uptick in posting activity of late.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0019rrf

'The row over drag queens reading stories to children.

A spate of protests outside libraries has focused attention on the idea of drag queen story hours - drag queens reading stories to young children in libraries and other public spaces. For some, it’s the perfect way to build acceptance of LGBTQ+ identities, plus it’s fun and fabulous for the children. For others, it risks exposing young minds to adult entertainment and complex themes of sex and gender.'

Do they? I know that's been claimed and it seems rather unclear. However, I can see that SUTR promoted the Leeds DQST as quite multi-faceted.

twitter.com/AntiRacismDay/status/1555925254840762368?

On the general point of how consistently anti-woman and pro-authoritarian any extreme political positions can be:

However, the [SWP] lost many members and its reputation between 2010-14, following allegations that reports of sexual abuse and rape were mishandled. In 2010, allegations of sexual abuse were first levelled against the then National Secretary of the Party, Martin Smith who became known simply as ‘Comrade Delta’. In 2012 the complainant clarified that she had been raped, yet the SWP refused to contact the police and instead dealt with the matter internally.

The Party’s Complaints Committee was accused of taking a victim-blaming approach, such as by asking about complainants drinking habits and sexual past. The Committee eventually found Martin Smith not guilty. Members of the Party who disagreed with the verdict were simply told that they could leave the party and, in 2013, members of the party were expelled after publicly discussing the case on social media.

By 2013, more accusations of rape were made against the party’s senior management. It was depicted as a ‘systemic’ problem. By 2014, the Party had Yet SWP has repeatedly tried to rehabilitate its reputation through a series of front organisations and campaigns aimed to recruit members for the SWP and cleanse the party’s image.

This has, however, not stopped the SWP from trying to rehabilitate their reputation and it has been repeatedly alleged that SUTR is a front for the SWP with this exact intention, yet it remains difficult to identify the exact connection between these two groups. As the CUSU policy on SUTR points out ‘lead members of the SWP, such as Weyman Bennett, are also senior figures in other movements such as Stand up to Racism’ but beyond this not much is clear.

www.varsity.co.uk/news/19423

When SWP protested a WPUK event.

womansplaceuk.org/2021/10/30/open-letter-swp-abusive-protest/

What happens when you've been using the term 'right wing' as a vague insult for so long that nobody actually listens or cares anymore?

Treat words with casual contempt and they become meaningless.

Does nobody know the 'Boy Who Cried Wolf' story anymore?

I've never seen that graphic before today (the figures under the rainbow umbrella). What GC accounts have you seen it on? I haven't - I'm also wondering what you're using as your timeline to be confident that Patriotic Alternative hasn't merely latched onto causes that it wishes to exploit for publicity? afaict, according to wikipaedia, Patriotic Alternative set itself up in 2019 which is rather recent although it's inline with previous very small organisations with similarly extreme political philosophies.

Accusations of us all being funded by the American Right continue to be flung around with abandon and no evidence.

Maya Forstater has a good thread she's just posted about a very vague report that is as evidence free as you would expect (or correctly anticipate).

twitter.com/MForstater/status/1555975063588913152

gate.ngo/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Mapping-AG-Movements-in-the-UK-Report-1.pdf

There is a huge concerted effort right now to equate feminists with other groups.

It's unsurprising, we've seen this frequently before. Accusations of us all being funded by the American Right continue to be flung around with abandon and no evidence.

One thing I would note, while so many new visitors are diligently working here to discredit women working to protect our rights ... these groups you're seeing start to pop up now ... the ones that feminists warned you would pop up when the word got out about sterilising children and including males in women's spaces ... These groups have nothing to do with 'gc' women or feminists. Nothing at all.

There are no burly blokes from 'Patriotic Alternative' on here discussing how to support escaping victims of domestic violence, or helping breastfeeding mothers, or discussing how limiting gender stereotyping is. At least, I highly doubt it.

So - why are you on here, trying to pretend we're the same people? Presumably an effort to slur feminists? Force-team us with unrelated groups? Meanwhile, how is making fake sneery goady posts on Mumsnet actually going to fight the fash?

Have any of you given any thought to the long term consequences of this?

Many of the 'antifa' people seem to be in the whole thing purely for a fight. I'm not interested in fighting - I want to protect women and girls, I want a peaceful world that's safe for everyone.

If you disagree with feminist ideals, then why not actually do the mature thing and discuss them with us? Tell us why. Try to change our minds. Flinging insults and lies around does nobody any good and helps nothing.