Drag Queen Story Time

You know that doesn't even follow if we assume your, very obviously, twisted reading was correct, right?

They aren’t all gay. Who told you they were?

Hearach15 · Today 14:25

ScrollingLeaves · Today 13:51

^GoodJanetBadJanet · Today 13:41
Heh. I think the notion that he would be considered a suitable children’s entertainer would be news to Barry humphries.
I think the point is that lots of us grew up watching him on telly as kids.^

“Barry Humpbries as Dame Edna was a middle aged Melbourne housewife in whose persona he satirised society. The satire would have been completely above the heads of the children of the age shown in DQST,. The costume was not sex fetish version of female. The programmes went out at 10 p.m I posted on this earlier having looked it up.”

However, a drag queen reading children a children's story is not entertainment above the heads of children.

Quite. It’s aimed precisely at them. To draw them in.

You missed the point that Dame Edna was never intended for children. It was political and social satire. It was aired on TV for adults at an adult hour. He was not dressed to look sexualised. If any small children staying up late had seen him, they would have switched off.

"He's not, as it happens, gay."

Very true. If these drag queens weren't gay no one would have an issue. It's about homophobia and nothing else. Thank you for pointing this out.

Yep.

There are only two sexes.
Sex is immutable.

Those are not 'gender critical' beliefs unless you want to class virtually everyone in the world as 'gender critical'. You are free to try and do that, but most people will not have a clue what you're talking about.

'gender critical' feminism is feminism that criticises both the imposition of limiting stereotypes (gender) on people and the idea that gender is analogous to sex.

"clear differences between humphries act and the sort of drag acts we are talking about here."

So true, Dame Edna did not read children stories and these drag acts are. That is why they are suitable for kids.

Neither Dame Edna nor WIndow Twinky are drag acts in the sense of gay men who perform a certain kind of act, typically in nightclubs. They don't even have the same "look." They aren't drag queens as such. Barry Humphries is an actor and writer who has many character roles, many of whom are male, and he's not, as it happens, gay.

DQ story time is about drag queens, who are homosexual, that is the whole point. That's why it's "diversity".

Talking about Dame Edna is completely disingenuous.

Would I say what are gender critical beliefs?

There are only two sexes is a scientific fact. People can't change sex is a scientific fact.

@NYcupcake may I draw your attention to this diagram? I would judge those protesters to be in the green/red overlap area

nothing you have quoted marks them out as having gender critical or second wave feminist views, but if you have further quotes I’m all ears

Would you say they are gender critical beliefs?

I think it's that the visible erection is not real, it's a trick of the light, and we're imagining it because we have such filthy minds, pearl-clutching prudes that we are.

And even if it is real, it's OK, because some parents take their children to pantomimes.

Or something.

desperate stuff, this. First of all, she wasn’t routinely on daytime Tv. Second of all, as has been pointed out, there are clear differences between humphries act and the sort of drag acts we are talking about here. Third, you are still failing to point out any respect in which this activity benefits children.

Can I just clarify, are people here saying that it is ok to send their children to interact with and hear stories from someone who has a visible erection ? WTAF 🤮

"They performed away from kids in theatres on a stage" - you do realise parents sometimes take their children to the theatre?

The fact that Dame Edna is so often on daytime TV is because what she says is considered suitable viewing at a time when children are watching.

However, a drag queen reading children a children's story is not entertainment above the heads of children.

A few moments later, the protestor could be heard saying: 'You're probably teaching kids that there's 100 genders, there's only two sexes, no man can be a woman. We're here to protect children.'

Which of these statements do you think is untrue?

How many genders do you believe there are, and what are they?

How many sexes do you believe there are, and what are they?

Do you believe that men can be women?

From the Daily Mail

A few moments later, the protestor could be heard saying: 'You're probably teaching kids that there's 100 genders, there's only two sexes, no man can be a woman. We're here to protect children.'

This is straight out of the GC/Posie Parker playbook.

I think some people have kidded themselves into thinking "men can't be women" is some kind of minority, niche view, when it absolutely is not.

I fear that you don’t know what ‘gender critical’ means @NYcupcake

did you hear any of the protesters say ‘women face systematic oppression as a result of their biology’?

that is far more likely to mark them out as GC

everyone in the world knows that men aren’t women, that doesn’t tell you much

Barry Humphries and 'Lily Savage' did not perform for kids in closed, close proximity spaces like library reading areas and schools. They performed away from kids in theatres on a stage and in working mens' clubs until they hit the big time with TV where toned -down sanitised versions of their acts were shown. There was no sense that they billed their acts as for children. Neither Dame Edna (whose make-up was decidedly old-lady not sex-club) nor Paul O'Grady had overtly sexualised or 'dirty joke' type names for their characters.

Kenny Everett's female character did have a name that was a bit dodgy I think and I used to find his character an comfortable watch as a kid. I never felt that with Dame Edna nor Lily Savage. Kids, like women, have good antenna for what's right and what's not. they should not have that blurred by well meaning or virtue-signally parents, teachers or Labour MPs.

If you are complaining to your library, council or school about one of these events the Safe School Alliance have an excellent, well-researched piece on the subject that you might find useful:

safeschoolsallianceuk.net/2022/01/09/drag-queen-story-hour/

GoodJanetBadJanet · Today 13:41
Heh. I think the notion that he would be considered a suitable children’s entertainer would be news to Barry humphries.
I think the point is that lots of us grew up watching him on telly as kids.

Barry Humpbries as Dame Edna was a middle aged Melbourne housewife in whose persona he satirised society. The satire would have been completely above the heads of the children of the age shown in DQST,. The costume was not sex fetish version of female. The programmes went out at 10 p.m I posted on this earlier having looked it up.

that in no way establishes that drag queens reading stories is of benefit to children, I’m afraid.
but see if Barry is up for the gig by all means 😂

Anyway I’m out, we know disruptors use multiple deletions to get the thread pulled and that would be a shame if this was pulled.

I’ll go back to the day job where I know I am making a difference to women’s opportunities in India

Heh. I think the notion that he would be considered a suitable children’s entertainer would be news to Barry humphries.
I think the point is that lots of us grew up watching him on telly as kids.

Who’s keeping a bingo card of things said to dismiss women raising the alarm?

‘Dirty Minds’

’Imagining it’

There are other photos of this performer from other events reading to children showing similar they can’t all be dismissed as a trick of the light.