Drag Queen Story Time

I see women dressed like drag queens all over the place Grin - Not. And I'm someone living in a large city.
As in tons of make up, big hair and dresses

"Woman does equal sexualised clothes and make up and also woman also does not equal sexualised clothes and make up"

@GoodJanetBadJanet can you really not see and understand the absolutely massive logic fail in that sentence?

I see women dressed like drag queens all over the place - Not. And I'm someone living in a large city.

The story is what matters - not the reader. And a man dressed as a sexualised parody of women in not an appropriate role model to read to children. Get back to Drag Race and leave reading to children to responsible adults who have children's interests and welfare at heart.

A man dressed as a hyper-sexualised grotesque parody of a woman is an unsuitable person to be reading stories to small children. What benefit do you think there is in such a person reading stories to small children
Not everyone sees them as a grotesque parody though
Just dressing as a woman.

A man dressed as a hyper-sexualised grotesque parody of a woman is an unsuitable person to be reading stories to small children.

Exactly. And you'll never get an answer why this is beneficial for children.

they perpetuate the idea that woman = sexualised clothes and make up
See, I just can't agree with your way of thinking.
Woman does equal sexualised clothes and make up and also woman also does not equal sexualised clothes and make up, it equals me now in trousers and steel toe caps with no make up on as I never wear it
point is there's nothing wrong with women wearing tight dresses, lots of make up and big hair so I don't see drag as offensive - it's clearly not about me, I don't get why people take it so personally .
Each to their own.

Bizarre take Along with this....

It sounds awfully like you're trying to imply something there against all drag queens who read stories.

That bit was referring to the part where it says "the motivation was different."
What's that supposed to mean?

Well, yes. Some of us find men dressing as a hyper-sexualised grotesque parody of a woman offensive. I don't think anyone has said they shouldn't have the right to do this if they want to, but we also have the right to find this offensive.

What do you find so hard to understand? It's quite simple. People can dress how they want. Some people might be offended by the way other people are dressed.

A man dressed as a hyper-sexualised grotesque parody of a woman is an unsuitable person to be reading stories to small children. What benefit do you think there is in such a person reading stories to small children (for the children, of course)?

I hate drag

but some adults like it and I don’t see why anyone should stop them enjoying it

I just simply cannot see what the value is to children (and no one here has explained)

What a bizarre take.

Along with this....

It sounds awfully like you're trying to imply something there against all drag queens who read stories.

I also don't ever recall Dame Edna Everage attending any library to read books to kids. I don't recall Barry Humphries doing it either. As datun pointed out, Barry Humphries in any of his characters did not create a child safeguarding issue.

What I am pointing out is that to use that character as some kind of 'gotcha' is not working. At all.

drag panders to outdated stereotypes, no?

what are drag queens dressing up as?

women

how do they dress as women?

by donning high heels, tight, sexualised clothing and make up

they perpetuate the idea that woman = sexualised clothes and make up

seriously, how can this possibly ever be a good message for kids?

Who said there was?
The people on the thread who think drag is offensive because they think they are taking the piss out of them.
They clearly think there's something wrong with dressing up in drag.

Drag is arguably an art form, so too, arguably is burlesque and poledancing. People can dress however they wish, but should be mindful of what is appropriate for the situation. It's odd, but do you think the guy playing Aida would have got the gig as himself?

Are you arguing that straight people can't be flamboyant or dress up? Or that you can't be gay without conforming to regressive stereotypes? That's what we want to teach children?

Who said there was? The question is why you think involving children in a genre which relies for its meaning and significance on adult transgression of outdated gender stereotypes benefits them.
your inability to provide any coherent answer to that is very noticeable.

I agree. Dress how you want. Who has said people shouldn't dress how they want?

And if you think the exaggerated stereotypes involved in drag are necessary for acceptance of gay people, check your own bigotry
No, I just think there's nothing wrong with dressing how you want, whether that be in high heels, sequins, dresses etc or more conservative as we're all different.

rubbish. Stop distorting what people say. You know perfectly well that i was indicating the behaviour that should be expected of people in relation to homosexuality.
if you can’t argue honestly, don’t bother. And if you think the exaggerated stereotypes involved in drag are necessary for acceptance of gay people, check your own bigotry.

Edna may have become an icon, but the motivation was different.
It sounds awfully like you're trying to imply something there against all drag queens who read stories.

Barry Humphries is also not anything to do with the gay community either unless something dramatically has changed in the past few years
So it's OK for straight people to dress up in dresses and wigs then but not gay people?

Barry Humphries is also not anything to do with the gay community either unless something dramatically has changed in the past few years. This is the problem with trying to retrofit a rhetoric where it simply lacks integrity.

To use this character in this way shows a lack of understanding of its history and the context that shaped it.

Barry Humphries didn't create numerous child safeguarding loopholes across the country.

It is quite a stretch to include Dame Edna as a 'drag' act in the modern framing..

This was just one of Barry Humphries' characters that I grew up with in Australia. He was a satirist. Edna may have become an icon, but the motivation was different. Maybe Barry Humphries is viewed differently here in the UK, but to draw that comparison is not a good fit in my experience.

“So true, Dame Edna did not read children stories and these drag acts are. That is why they are suitable for kids.”

I have a CD of Dame Edna doing exactly that. It’s a narration of Peter and the Wolf. In my opinion, Dame Edna ruins it. it’s a good example of how the drag act is irrelevant and unsuitable for children - it goes straight over their heads. They have no idea that this person is a famous comedian and they care even less.

Storytelling is a real skill. It takes more than a glittery dress and an affected voice to do it properly.

Yes, Datun, thank you.

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/live-protesters-clash-outside-drag-7391626

From RuPaul's drag race and their 'women are fish
Have you even watched Rupaul's Drag Race?!
I watch it and they don't refer to fish at all 😕