LGB Alliance to plan helpline with Lottery funding

so we now have two supposedly tolerant, inclusive posters from the wonderfully loving community personally attacking posters for not agreeing with them.

Shocked am I, I tell you !

And still not ONE bit of evidence of about LGB Alliance.

Not one.

But some eye opening live time demonstrations on what the posters supporting extreme trans activism resort to instead of mature discussion and focusing on evidence….

same old, same old

Every single member of the LGBT community is an actual person 😍

God Bless all the letters in the LGBT community! Long may we all flourish!

Last couple of responses kind of give the game away - caring about "the community" and even the "letters".

Caring far less about the actual people. Particularly the women. Far easier to talk in abstractions - clichéd ones, at that.

Same sort of problem we saw with the Catholic Church a few times, and indeed many times in history in other organisations and communities. The symbols and the structures being more important. The sort of attitude that leads to wilful blindness and cover-ups.

just not quite brave enough are you

honestly it’s pathetic

And the post went anyway 😀

(just in case my post goes bye bye)

Well, if we're allowed to assign labels to other people yours begins with 'B' and ends with 'T'. It's a five letter word, go figure

just not quite brave enough are you 😥

honestly it’s pathetic 😀

God Bless all the letters in the LGBT community! Long may we all flourish! 😘

You think most gays and lesbians don't support trans inclusion?

If that isn't the case why did GC news outlet Lesbian and Gay News shut?

www.lesbianandgaynews.com/

It explicitly said it was no longer able to continue because there were far too few GC members of the LGBT community for them to pay the bills. It was targeting a tiny market

Suspect I've done more in terms of activism for the LGBT community than you ever have.

You might suspect it but it would be difficult for you to validate that in a meaningful way. And, given some of the posters on this thread, my strong suspicion is that you have no idea of the depth of the inappropriateness of your comparison and self-annointment.

Pigeon chess……

Just more denialism. You have nothing else.

😻🌂💗🐣

Suspect I've done more in terms of activism for the LGBT community than you ever have.

And by trans inclusion is not homophobic. It is something the vast majority of gays and lesbians agree on! 😍😍😍

Some nutter? Fuck me the projection is strong in this one.

You also have no idea of the meaning of that word. And with the homophobic and anti-woman views you hold? You call me whatever names you want to, you enjoy yourself. I'm honestly out of fucks to give.

The sheer childishness of the 'Lol' says just as much frankly.

You need to get over yourself and just let people live their own lives and chose their own labels.

You mean like you're doing? To lesbians?

Lol, no it isn't. You need to get over yourself and just let people live their own lives and chose their own labels.

I'm Billy Bragg

I've honestly lost any remaining willingness to play games.

I'm supposed to not say I'm a biological female cos....reasons, to do with upsetting TQ+ people (who could not give a fuck about my feelings, identity or reasons)

I'm not supposed to say women are female.... see above

I'm supposed to be a 'person' and not a woman... see above, despite that the default human is male and this is a battle women haven't yet won

I'm not supposed to expect privacy, dignity or single sex provision because above, and if I'm unlucky and get totally excluded from any provision then no TQ+ political activist gives a shit, because male people can be happy

and now I'm not supposed to say that lesbians are homosexual females, or that I will not, no matter what, ever be sexually attracted to a biological male regardless of identity because homosexual female.

And you want to tell me about policing other people's identities - dear God the irony!

I'm done. I've got nothing left. I've tried understanding, being reasonable, trying to negotiate and explain - I'm drained dry. I'm left with fuck the fuck off my identity, my language, my spaces, and find other solutions because I am not playing this game any longer. I have no respect to give to those who have no respect for me or anyone else, and no energy left to give them in this never ending maze of need and trampling over other people.

Lol, no it isn't. You need to get over yourself and just let people live their own lives and chose their own labels.

Yes. As a lesbian, at this point, it bloody well is for me to police other people's identities to make them get their grabby, entitled hands off mine.

If you are not a homosexual female who exclusively chooses sex with other homosexual females you are not a lesbian . You are not.

I'm not indulging this ridiculous bullshit any longer.

"It is fine for females to be happy to have sex with TW, that's lovely for them, I wish them well, but they are bi, not lesbian."

That is not the case. Plenty of lesbians have sex with trans women and do not consider themselves bi. Ditto for gay men.

It's not up for you to police anyone else's identity.

And by the way, this is just a small sample of the things that prominent transitioned males have said about females. I could keep posting them, but it would fill up the thread.

This is a feminism board starlee. We collect these things because these are males who are harming females with these attitudes.

Trans communities include females who will be harmed if this behaviour does not stop. I have not seen one prominent trans person call this out but I would be delighted to see some evidence that someone did.

It is infantilising trans people to not call them out on their extremist and very harmful views on females. But crack on trying to portray the reporting of them as 'not supporting trans people'.

The denial that it is happening, is the exact same denial that transitioned males are seeking to coerce homosexual females into sex in any way.

It is exactly the same denial that Nancy Kelley did not effectively say that lesbians are prejudiced:

"Nobody should ever be pressured into dating, or pressured into dating people they aren't attracted to. But if you find that when dating, you are writing off entire groups of people, like people of colour, fat people, disabled people or trans people, then it's worth considering how societal prejudices may have shaped your attractions."