Active discussions

Please or to access all these features

Talk
Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Feminism: chat

Original poster

LGB Alliance to plan helpline with Lottery funding

959 replies

pombear · 10/06/2022 20:29

Fantastic news.

I would link to their Twitter announcement, but in usual state of play, Twitter has marked it ' may not be appropriate for people under 18'. A helpline planned for 13 to 25 year olds, planned by a panel of experts in child protection, education, helpline delivery, fundraising and psychology.

Yep - shut them down (much better to have helplines planned by IT workers who took their child to Thailand...)

As LGB Alliance state there is no dedicated national service of its kind for young LGB people in the UK.

I'm sure the Lottery Fund will be getting a lot of feedback right now, given the outpouring of hyperbole against LGB Alliance right now on Twitter.

So they may appreciate feedback from those who may see this as a positive move too:

""We really value your feedback. If you have a comment or complaint about the services that we provide, or if there's something important you think we should know, we'd love to hear it. Please email us at [email protected]"

LGB Alliance to plan helpline with Lottery funding
OP posts:
Thread gallery
17
SolasAnla · 12/06/2022 12:10

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 12/06/2022 10:59

I would expect that to be the tactic given the behaviour of various thought leaders on Twitter and elsewhere.

I would also like to think well enough of some key opinion leaders that they advise against this tactic because these is a helpline for young people who have chosen to reach out to this service.

Show quote history

I have already seen that be suggested by a small account listing as being in Florida. But as most free calls lines are not free when using them out of country it may end up as an expensive harrassment campaign.

The TRA would be engaged in self defeating activity as each call is driving the basic "Is there a demand metric". Which is supplying proof that the service is being used, therefore needs to expand, and needs bigger funding.

And harrassment of the line also prove the need too.

Shandling · 12/06/2022 12:08

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

camphire · 12/06/2022 12:03

Shanding your straw man building is wild. Undiagnosed children don't turn up at my group for adults diagnosed with ADHD.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 12/06/2022 10:59

TheGreatATuin · 12/06/2022 10:52

Considering their usual tactics, I imagine activists are going to swamp the phone line the moment that it goes live and then ask leading questions so that they can post out of context and edited snippets on twitter.
Much like the occasional visitors we get to this board.

I would expect that to be the tactic given the behaviour of various thought leaders on Twitter and elsewhere.

I would also like to think well enough of some key opinion leaders that they advise against this tactic because these is a helpline for young people who have chosen to reach out to this service.

winsomewoman · 12/06/2022 10:54

MrsOvertonsWindow · 11/06/2022 18:35

Just to be fair to Stonewall (I know...) they used to run groups. There was a lesbian parents group back in the day when lesbian parenting wasn't acknowledged as it is now and everyone acknowledged what a woman was.

If this was a Stonewall group, they were probably using it for research purposes in order to develop their policy. In 16 years of being associated with Stonewall I never knew it put any resources directly into the community unless it was for its own purposes.

Stonewall didn't run or finance social groups or helplines. The regional reps kept lists of groups and organisation that they would refer people to if they contacted Stonewall looking for LGB groups in their area, but those weren't Stonewall groups.

TheGreatATuin · 12/06/2022 10:52

Considering their usual tactics, I imagine activists are going to swamp the phone line the moment that it goes live and then ask leading questions so that they can post out of context and edited snippets on twitter.
Much like the occasional visitors we get to this board.

Shandling · 12/06/2022 10:42

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Shandling · 12/06/2022 10:40

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 12/06/2022 10:38

Just to point out that no adult groups involved with queer theory should be offering "counselling" "support" to children. We're in this mess because self invested adults have been allowed to "sell" their ideology to children with no filters - be they safeguarding, awareness of child psychology / development, age appropriate, professional supervision etc.

Counselling and offering support to children over something as complex as identity / sexuality is not for the untrained and needs proper training, management and supervision. Which I am sure that the LGB Alliance will plan for and provide.

Shandling · 12/06/2022 10:34

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 12/06/2022 10:34

mermaids is 100% not about the LGB - see their governing document Mermaids governing document

I’m amazed the charity commission hasn’t done them for working outside their charitable objects tbh but then the charity commission is extremely toothless

camphire · 12/06/2022 10:30

Did I self diagnose my ADHD? What on earth are you talking about? I was diagnosed by a psychiatrist, are you feeling ok? Seems like a really irrelevant question to ask.

Anyhow, I'll reinforce my point. If I want to speak to someone about my lived experience of ADHD I don't want support from people with dyslexia or autism or dysgraphia. Ok hun?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 12/06/2022 10:30

Helpful list

goodness there’s a lot of advice out there

Shandling · 12/06/2022 10:29

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

NotKevinTurvey · 12/06/2022 10:29

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

It’s for all ages.

You are ignoring the fact that trans and sexuality are completely unrelated things. Being gay is innate, it’s about who someone is attracted to, trans is a psychological condition, gender dysphoria.

If you want to group it with anything it should be with helplines for similar conditions such as anorexia, with which it shares so many features, not with sexuality, with which it shares none.

Clymene · 12/06/2022 10:26

Mermaids also have a helpline

mermaidsuk.org.uk/contact-us/

Shandling · 12/06/2022 10:25

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Shandling · 12/06/2022 10:24

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

camphire · 12/06/2022 10:23

I have ADHD.

I attend an ADHD online support group.

I don't want to go to a 'neurodiversity' support group because it wouldn't meet my needs.

I don't see how this is any different.

NotKevinTurvey · 12/06/2022 10:18

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

bristolmind.org.uk/help-and-support/mindline-transplus/

Shandling · 12/06/2022 10:16

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 12/06/2022 10:08

You are working under the demonstrably false assumption that there are no trans-specific helplines already. Just stop it.

Shandling · 12/06/2022 10:05

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

TastefulRainbowUnicorn · 12/06/2022 10:01

So you'd advocate for a seperate T phoneline, that sounds like a disaster for kids who think they are T but are just gay.

Don't be so smarmy and disingenuous. Those already exist, as I'm quite sure you are know, and I agree they are a disaster but they are unlikely to be dismantled until the current bubbling medical scandal has reached unignorable proportions.
You are worried that gay kids might have access to resources where they won't be exposed to conversion therapy; it's repulsive.

NotKevinTurvey · 12/06/2022 10:00

This reply has been deleted

This has been deleted by MNHQ for breaking our Talk Guidelines.

Then they should also support children choosing between arts and sciences for A-level, and whether to be emo or goth.

Or maybe they can choose not to lump completely unrelated issues into support around sexuality.