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Giles Fraser - how pasta made him a t***

38 replies

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 09/06/2022 13:34

unherd.com/2022/06/how-pasta-made-me-a-terf/

Good on him for going public with this.

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Hagiography · 09/06/2022 14:56

JFC Plasmodesta. I can't believe my license fee has supported that. Will be making a complaint.

WildIris · 09/06/2022 14:56

*an

WildIris · 09/06/2022 14:55

FFS, this whole “I know 2 people who’ve transitioned and they’re lovely” talk really pisses me off.

All it does, is show you up as a uneducated, narrow-minded person!

And yes, Giles Fraser, you should “mind your business and simply shut up”.

Plasmodesmata · 09/06/2022 14:50

Yep, I thought twat too. I thought perhaps he was making Hawaiian spaghetti.

Content warning for crimes against food:
www.bbc.co.uk/food/recipes/hawaiian_spaghetti_67939

MenopausalMe · 09/06/2022 14:49

tbf he is also a twat - what he has said is ‘I don't think I should get involved but now a male friend of mine has been impacted it is all very unfair that he has been impacted’

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/06/2022 14:44

I thought these lines sum up the whole situation perfectly:
This is not a column about sexual politics — it is about bullying, pure and simple .

BenCooperisaGod · 09/06/2022 14:33

Is it just me that was trying to figure out how pasta made him a twat?

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 09/06/2022 14:29

He got pretty much roasted in the comments. Most of the posters thought he had been pretty wet not to have noticed before how dire the situation for women was becoming, and to have toed the let’s be kind line whilst ignoring the fact that the ‘opposition’ are anything but kind.
There was also pretty much general rejection of his continuing intention to use requested pronouns if they did not match the biological identity of the person, and the ungrammatical nonsense of the the plural used for a a single individual.

of course , this was at 8.00 am, just after ‘opening time’. Possibly Things will have changed to right think by now.

Interestingly, I stopped subscribing to UnHerd last year because of the general BTL misogyny . There seems to have been quite a change since then.

Hagiography · 09/06/2022 14:23

Should be Pizir Margheriterf, of course.

Hagiography · 09/06/2022 14:20

Spaghetti Bolognothanks

Spaghetti Carbononbinary

Pizir Margherita

NecessaryScene · 09/06/2022 13:40

However, the article is very good. Thank you, Giles!

It was a bit depressing to find out the restaurant attack wasn't just random. I was optimistic enough to think that it might just have been a coincidence, and not everything is related to this mess...

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 09/06/2022 13:40

It will be interesting to watch the response and see if it's even in the same league as that a woman might expect for writing the same piece.

NecessaryScene · 09/06/2022 13:37

Did you really have to asterisk it like that?

Was genuinely expecting the headline to say "twat", and was disappointed.