Waitrose delivery driver

So where is the line, women?

Mildly amusing at best 🫤

So, the long haired delivery driver decided to interrogate KJK about her business and creep her out about using the same spaces as her daughter in a short time frame. Oh, and then deliberately drag feet about leaving when asked after that. Is it ok that they were only intimidating for a little while? I would hate to be in a small enclosed space with that person; if they are like that in daylight and with people around. .

Inappropriate whether a short or long timeframe. Chit chat is 'nice day'.

What would the purpose of insulting you be? I am describing what your pattern of behaviour looks like.

If you find the description insulting, I recommend you rethink your posting habits.

Because KJK has less right to occupy her own house than a male transitioner. As established!

In today’s political climate, adult human female or women signs are a political statement.

I’m absolutely not attacking KJK for displaying those signs, but one of the reasons why we put up posters, flags etc is because we want people to engage with them.

It’s a form of political evangelisation. The driver overstepped his job responsibilities by choosing to verbally engage but had a different driver attended, struck up a conversation and KJK helped them reached the summit of a mountain, it would have been job done and the signs served their purpose.

If I was delivering to a house with a rainbow flag and a slogan about TWAW, I’d remember I was representing my employer and bite my tongue.

Disappointed. Is that the best insult you can come up with.

ok. Well I must've missed the other awful things in that case.

Why did KJK leave it was her house?

The U.K. EA Tribunal judgement I posted says otherwise. It says deliberate misgendering, specifically calling a transwoman a man, can be unlawful harrassment and possessing gender critical beliefs doesn’t protect a person from liability.

It appears your object is to convince us all that trans activists are totally without integrity and think their wishes supersede all other people's no matter the location, and that given this, negotiation with you is impossible.

Odd objective, but you're achieving it, definitely.

Well she was wanted though wasn’t she as KJK ordered for her groceries to be delivered by Waitrose to her doorstep. And after KJK told her to get off the property, she left.

Don’t care. Not my objective.

I see I will have to be specific: “claiming that the most awful aspect of the entire scenario” is not a claim I made. So, that’s a fiction.

Discovereads - still going? Not going to convince the feminist board lovey.

However one's unwanted presence on someone's doorstep and driveway is just what, flattery?

Let me tell you about a Waitrose delivery. The groceries are not bagged, so you take them from the green crates on the doorstep inside in armfuls and this takes a few minutes. So you normally have a bit of chit chat with the driver. The whole conversation that KJK relates could be done in under 5 mins. After the delivery is done, they have to put the crates back in the back of the van. Then they usually sit in the van and process any refunds due to you (if you refused any poor quality items or substitutions) and to set their GPS for the next delivery before they set off.

Eh? Calling him male is exactly her not calling him female.

Isn't it?

<peers round nervously>

you knowing all that but still claiming the most awful aspect of the entire scenario is her not willingly calling him female,

Fiction. Made no such claim.

😂😂😂😂 - give it up love. You are boring us now.

So, all this conversation happened when the long haired, delivery driver had dropped off the delivery and for some reason they decided to hang around and start making remarks to the customer about their business.

They only need to access someone's property to drop the delivery off, and then leave. Is part of the Waitrose delivery service for the delivery driver (long haired or not) to query you about your business and loiter when you ask them to leave? The 'I will be using the same space as your daughter' remark seems designed to creep the customer out. This was after KJK has pointed it makes many women feel uncomfortable.

Discovereads - misgendering is not harassment. Doesn't matter how much you wish it wasn't so, it isn't.

Thank you, you're quite right. That was just shocking to me - I wouldn't speak to anyone here differently to how I would if we were all down the pub, even if I might debate robustly. I shall follow your counsel, keep to civil society and even perhaps go to bed.

Deliberate misgendering is a form of harrassment.

Demanding people lie about your sex is a form of harassment.