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SapphosRock · 08/06/2022 18:19

Oh dear Cosmopolitan Magazine. Where to start?

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/love-sex/sex/a28405/10-lesbian-sex-tips/

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/a34553064/first-time-lesbian-sex/

It seems Cosmo's too tips are as follows:

Lesbians must always be considerate that some penis-havers identify as lesbians and must be included in anything and everything to do with lesbians, particularly lesbian sex.

If you’ve never had lesbian sex before watching lesbian porn shows a healthy depiction of lesbian relationships and doesn’t fetishise lesbians at all.

You don’t have a traditional female or male gender presentation? You should consider microdosing on permanent life-altering, experimental hormones. There is nothing irresponsible or flippant about this suggestion.

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TheBiologyStupid · 09/06/2022 11:52

Joystir59 · 09/06/2022 09:53

No biological male can be a lesbian. A male lesbian is an oxymoron

And without the "oxy", too...

PeterPomegranate · 09/06/2022 10:30

SapphosRock · 09/06/2022 08:01

As a heterosexual woman I have never thought ‘I want to have heterosexual sex’ as an abstract thought forgetting it involves someone who is also a real person like I am.

As a lesbian woman I've also never thought I'd like to try heterosexual sex as an abstract thought. It would seem very unfair on the man I was sleeping with.

Well indeed. The whole idea of ‘I want to have sex with [them]’ without realising this involves a real life person who should be as into it as you are is a bit of a red flag.

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SapphosRock · 09/06/2022 10:25

Joystir59 · 09/06/2022 09:37

Having been a lesbian for long years that was too painful to read. Lesbians have great sex! Lots of orgasms! It's been the case for ages. Research shows that lesbians are more likely to reach orgasm during partnered sex than our straight sisters. This article is informed by deep homophobia and misogyny. Sad. Depressing.

I agree. When my straight friends talk about having sex with their long term partners and casually mention they don't always orgasm I think... how weird. I can't think of a time that regularly happens with lesbians.

Perhaps it's because the article is targeted at straight women having 'kinky' experimental lesbian sex which is a different matter.

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OneOfThoseOldFashionedWomen · 09/06/2022 09:56

Research shows that lesbians are more likely to reach orgasm during partnered sex than our straight sisters

But that's old fashioned Lesbian research. I should imagine Modern Lesbians are just as likely/unlikely to reach an orgasm as their straight sisters, mainly because their modern lesbian partner has a dick.

Joystir59 · 09/06/2022 09:53

No biological male can be a lesbian. A male lesbian is an oxymoron

Joystir59 · 09/06/2022 09:37

Having been a lesbian for long years that was too painful to read. Lesbians have great sex! Lots of orgasms! It's been the case for ages. Research shows that lesbians are more likely to reach orgasm during partnered sex than our straight sisters. This article is informed by deep homophobia and misogyny. Sad. Depressing.

Nutellaspoon · 09/06/2022 08:41

No wonder people are dysphoric. Reading that as a straight woman I now wondering whether I am in fact a straight but homosexual man with a vagina who is lesbian at the weekends. I'm definitely not just a straight woman because that wouldn't be special.

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SapphosRock · 09/06/2022 08:23

Not quite sure why Cosmo is giving advice on how to have sex with girls and women. Sounds a bit illegal…

Agreed, although technically 16 and 17 year olds are girls. The other option is 'teenagers' which sounds worse!

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PoseyFlump · 09/06/2022 08:19

risefromyourgrave · 09/06/2022 08:14

Not quite sure why Cosmo is giving advice on how to have sex with girls and women. Sounds a bit illegal…

Straight men presenting as women and wanting to have sex with girls? That would never happen.

risefromyourgrave · 09/06/2022 08:14

Not quite sure why Cosmo is giving advice on how to have sex with girls and women. Sounds a bit illegal…

Musomama1 · 09/06/2022 08:09

Does Cosmo actually talk to real lesbians? Or is this more for experimenting 'mostly straight' women?

In the same breath they tell you to micro dose sex hormones to 'ease your dysphoria'. Like taking a parametemol. What planet is Cosmo on?

This is the one of the least empowering things I've read!

Is it satire?

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SapphosRock · 09/06/2022 08:01

As a heterosexual woman I have never thought ‘I want to have heterosexual sex’ as an abstract thought forgetting it involves someone who is also a real person like I am.

As a lesbian woman I've also never thought I'd like to try heterosexual sex as an abstract thought. It would seem very unfair on the man I was sleeping with.

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Wonnle · 09/06/2022 08:01

Is she Nigel Havers sister ?

PeterPomegranate · 09/06/2022 07:48

TheBiologyStupid · 08/06/2022 22:48

This might seem strange because hi, yeah, of course they’re a person, but Price says when you’re wrapped up in this notion of, I want to have lesbian sex, some people forget there’s a human on the other side of their desires, and that can be harmful to them, even if you don't mean for it to be.

For some unfathomable reason, I just can't imagine what kind of lesbian would need that particular advice. Oh, actually....

As a heterosexual woman I have never thought ‘I want to have heterosexual sex’ as an abstract thought forgetting it involves someone who is also a real person like I am.

Attractinglife · 09/06/2022 07:41

Sparklybutold · 08/06/2022 19:40

Fucking.hell

That makes for some sad reading. Fancy telling a gay man to give a transman a go. The same conversation would be a non starter.

This does happen.

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SapphosRock · 09/06/2022 07:35

It must feel so demoralising for young lesbians to have their sexuality eroticised for the benefit of straight / male Cosmopolitan readers.

But taking cross-sex hormones and transitioning to male / non-binary is taken seriously and written about as a mainstream option:

www.cosmopolitan.com/uk/body/health/a39976179/lgbt-healthcare/

It's not surprising so many young lesbians are identifying as male, non-binary or queer.

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Moomoola · 09/06/2022 05:39

Gosh, I remember the pressure cosmo put us ladies under when it was all’how to give a blow job’ ‘ how to make him happy in bed’ this is insane, and horrible.

KittyLeMew · 09/06/2022 03:33

Christ on a fucking bike.

OneOfThoseOldFashionedWomen · 08/06/2022 22:53

Agree Gin

Plus it isn't a bloody assumption which is

'a thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof'

Lesbians have proof that dicks don't do it for them.

TheBiologyStupid · 08/06/2022 22:48

This might seem strange because hi, yeah, of course they’re a person, but Price says when you’re wrapped up in this notion of, I want to have lesbian sex, some people forget there’s a human on the other side of their desires, and that can be harmful to them, even if you don't mean for it to be.

For some unfathomable reason, I just can't imagine what kind of lesbian would need that particular advice. Oh, actually....

minutesturntohours · 08/06/2022 22:38

Sorry, I bloody did it again!

I think this is the first time I've found myself agreeing on a thread in these matters. Ignorant, uneducated and dangerous.

GrinAndVomit · 08/06/2022 22:29

Check my assumptions?
No, Cosmo. Check your homophobia and lesbian erasure.

Pennox · 08/06/2022 22:28

microdosing oestrogen? i've heard it all now!

who are you going to ask for this? And how?

BaronessBomburst · 08/06/2022 22:23

Oh, I'd forgotten about pansexual.

minutesturntohours · 08/06/2022 21:53

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