So disgusted tonight

Targeting the lawmakers and working quietly behind the scenes via self interested lobby groups was exactly how this assault on women's rights started and progressed as far as it has because the TAs knew if they were to honest present their case to the public it wouldn't fly.

That's not what I'd consider democratic so it's a bit rich to be clutching one's pearls over this.

Quite.

She wasn't talking about children

Not all of my points were about children.

Sorry to hear he had such struggles

But he was an adult, and he decided on 'the least bad option' - do you think that option should be taken away from him?

She wasn't talking about children.

When medics and whistleblowers say that children are transitioning for the wrong reasons, Helen is right to speak out.

When the rate of transition regret is substantial but unknown, Helen is right to speak out.

When doctors are prescribing puberty blockers to 9 year olds after a single conversation over the phone, Helen is right to speak out.

When primary school children are being taught that they can switch from "planet boy to planet girl" just by feelings, Helen or right to speak out.

When young gay men and young lesbian women see transition as a way of escaping homophobia, Helen is right to speak out.

When the link between trans identification and a history of abuse/MH issues/autism/care status is observed but unexplored, Helen is right to speak out.

When the affirmation model is the default, and talking therapy is labelled conversion therapy, Helen is right to speak out.

When suicide stats are misused, and parents are threatened with "better a trans child than a dead child", Helen is right to speak out.

A wish to reduce the number of children choosing to transition is not bigotry, and it's a lazy, agressive accusation designed to shut down debate, it's a recognition of all of the above.

I’ve said before on this board I dated a trans man. Happily transitioned, for many decades.

He emphatically was damaged. Both physically, by the surgery and drugs. And he had ongoing mental health problems that lead to him collapsing fairly spectacularly a couple of years after we broke up.

I reckon transitioning was the least bad outcome for him. But it’s wrong to say he wasn’t damaged by it.

why does she get to decide what other people do with their lives and their bodies?

She's not queen of everything so she doesn't get to make that decision, ultimately.

And what is being done by others in this instance has real world consequences for the rest of us - friends, family and wider society it's not done in a vacuum.

If you give the subject more than a minutes thought you would see that.

She says they should be targeting the lawmakers because the majority of the population don't agree with them - why? Isn't this a democracy?

Targeting the lawmakers and working quietly behind the scenes via self interested lobby groups was exactly how this assault on women's rights started and progressed as far as it has because the TAs knew if they were to honest present their case to the public it wouldn't fly.

That's not what I'd consider democratic so it's a bit rich to be clutching one's pearls over this.

I'm disgusted too. What she says in the video is disgusting.

She says that she knows that her views won't win popular support and she's right. Most people will recoil at her describing a whole group as a 'big problem' and 'damaged' (even if happily transitioned). It's dehumanising.

She says they should be targeting the lawmakers because the majority of the population don't agree with them - why? Isn't this a democracy?

She says she wants to stop people transitioning - why does she get to decide what other people do with their lives and their bodies?

What she says is disgusting.

Sorry, that was truncated, here is the full text

Here's the text from the video shared (over 500k views on Twitter).

If you're pissing off the usual suspects then you're probably doing something right...

What did she say that is claimed to be terrible? Is it about how children are being sent to surgeons and being medicalised for reasons many would consider beyond belief?

What's terrible is putting ideas into children's heads that their bodies are wrong and they need to be sterilised and mutilated order to 'be themselves'.

Why wouldn't you want to reduce the number of people who feel this way?

He’s quoting what she said? I don’t see how it’s out of context or “lies”. What she said sounds terrible because it is terrible.