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Free beer for men at Bills' restaurant

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Tania64 · 01/06/2022 21:20

Bills are offering free beer to men for Father's day. I asked them on their live chat if Transmen are included in the offer. The reply was 'it shouldn't be a problem'. So I replied 'ok so as Transmen are bio women are all bio women included in the offer in line with equality?' The answer 'I'm not sure but we do consider all of our customers to be equal'. As this appears as a politicians reply & does not answer my question I have sent them an e mail with my question. I await the reply.Any thoughts?

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TribunalBingo · 02/06/2022 08:52

I'm reminded of this story about Brewdog, who were taken to the small claims court for a promo they did on International Women's Day.

I think mother's and father's days promos are fair enough, but in the brave new world of self-id, any brand doing such a promo should be prepared for all of their customers to self-id as elligible for the deal.

www.inside.beer/news/detail/uk-brewdog-sentenced-for-male-sex-discrimination/

OvaHere · 02/06/2022 08:50

I've never heard of Bills. Is it a chain?
I can't say this bothers me in the grand scheme but there is some precedence of legal action for a similar thing.

metro.co.uk/2019/06/18/man-sues-brewdog-refused-pink-beer-girls-9993150/

Dashdotdotdash · 02/06/2022 08:39

Any thoughts?

Mostly that I don't care.

Whatiswrongwithmyknee · 02/06/2022 08:21

I see your point OP. Society is still allowed to use the word man to mean men, but not woman to mean women.

Hallyup89 · 02/06/2022 08:15

I don't see the issue as long as all women and transwomen get a free drink on Mother's Day. You're stirring unnecessarily (and probably talking to some young person who didn't know how the hell to respond to you).

halfdaybae · 02/06/2022 08:05

Tania64 · 01/06/2022 21:20

Bills are offering free beer to men for Father's day. I asked them on their live chat if Transmen are included in the offer. The reply was 'it shouldn't be a problem'. So I replied 'ok so as Transmen are bio women are all bio women included in the offer in line with equality?' The answer 'I'm not sure but we do consider all of our customers to be equal'. As this appears as a politicians reply & does not answer my question I have sent them an e mail with my question. I await the reply.Any thoughts?

What would you have liked their response to have been?

Rightsraptor · 02/06/2022 07:55

I've had a complimentary bottle of prosecco in Cafe Rouge on Mother's Day, not had to prove I was a mother nor was I in the company of my children, who steadfastly ignore that day.

I'm wondering now how that works. Is it in reality an across the board thing, with everyone getting a bottle? Or did my friend and I 'pass' as mothers?

Not sure what I think of the Bill's promotion. Will some brave soul go an self ID as a dad and report back?

DameHelena · 02/06/2022 07:45

I think the interesting point here is that if it were Mother's day and they offered women free drinks, it'd be all over SM how trans women were 'excluded'.
Trans men, unless I'm very much missing something on Insta/Twitter, are not howling in protest about this.

tabbycatstripy · 02/06/2022 07:28

This isn’t my hill. Free beer for a young parent who has been persuaded they’re male and encouraged to remove their breasts because of internalised misogyny? I’ll buy them a beer. Poor people.

CheeseMmmm · 02/06/2022 04:15

How much free beer? There must be t&c extensive and limits. Or they in for ridiculous bill!

sawdustformypony · 01/06/2022 22:52

Sounds like a win-win situation. top cis n trans bottoms on seats and great publicity. crafty princes.

KittenKong · 01/06/2022 21:21

So we’re all men on Father’s Day. Let them to suggest otherwise.