Free beer for men at Bills' restaurant

Just to clarify that sex discrimination point - if the free drink is for anyone who claims to be a man then it is a free drink for anyone who wants it, but men are more likely to identify as a man and therefore women are being discriminated against.

WeeBisom · Today 09:23

A couple of years ago a supermarket was offering a free hot drink to men on Father’s Day. My mother knows the cafe workers and joked that she could just identity as a man. They said it her “sure , why not” and she got her free cup of tea.

Surely this is the point. If they want to offer a "free drink to men" on Father's Day (itself a weird concept as not all men are fathers) then they need to define the word "man" and have a policy to determine who are actually men, and who are lying about being men in order to get a free drink.

Otherwise it is not a free drink for men, it's free drink for anyone who wants a free drink, and they are misrepresenting their promotion and they might be committing sex discrimination against women by implying that they are less entitled to the free drink than men are.

@Darkorangebiscuit yes that's fine, but this post isn't about single sex spaces (which I agree with) it's about free beer on Father's Day!!!

Making sure their toilets are single sex and that this policy is adhered to is fighting for women and girls safety.

This is such a non issue and such a strange thing to get worked up about. It makes us as GC people look so weird and argumentative. Can we stick to fighting for women and girls safety?

If enough of us contact them they'll probably put out a statement.

bills-website.co.uk/contact/

I've been scouring their website and it mentions that they have accessible toliets but no mention of their toilets being single sex so it's probably worth asking that too when you contact them.

With the greatest respect, it's Bills...poor person who had the deal with this query. 🙄

I thought this too Grin if there’s anything to be upset about here it’s probably the gender stereotypes attached to the offer really

but if you prefer beer you must have a man brain so are trans according to the ideology. If you like sweet and sparkly prosecco you are clearly a woman.

so get up there and claim your manly beer!

it devalues the cause to create a ruckus over a free beer offer.

I disagree, the more we bring attention to these companies the more likely the MSN will pick up the story which helps the sunlight flood in for their readers.

Yes, I agree sara.

If Bill's restaurant think that TWAW I'll be adding them to my boycott list

It’s only because we saw the hooha at Mother’s Day when companies offered things ‘for mums’.

Oh FFS. This is the stuff that makes me embarrassed to be GC.

It's a restaurant chain. Why should every single random business have to tread this ridiculous tight rope to try to satisfy everyone? This sort of thing must be a nightmare for them, and it devalues the cause to create a ruckus over a free beer offer.

They don't need to make a statement about trans. It's a fucking restaurant.

I'd be interested to know if TWAW alligns with the values of Bill's Restaurant.

If enough of us contact them they'll probably put out a statement.

bills-website.co.uk/contact/

Oh. Looking back, I'm not sure I can be bi-gender, because it looks like big-ender if you don't hyphenate. And I don't want to draw attention to the size of my end.

It's a bit annoying that beer = for blokes and pudding = for the laydeez.

I would far rather have a beer - in fact if I am out with family I often order another pint while they are having puddings!

(I realise that's not the point of the thread)

What gender are you if you like both? Is it bigender? Have I finally found an answer to "what gender am I?"?

This thread may have been life-changing...

(I have no issues with the same company doing free stuff for mothers and fathers on their respective "days", no matter how you define them tbh)

Me too. I don't like sweet stuff much and never have desert, and love beer and snap! Another pint for me please.

To whom?

People who think that anyway because they choose to?

People like me who ARE one of those women?

A few thoughts.

They're trying to do a usual kind of offer without being brought under fire, fair enough.

Looks like they will give free beer to anyone who says they are a man. No proof you're a father either I suppose?

If I lived nearby I would 100% be there getting free beer.

What can they do? Doesn't seem they've done anything "wrong".

It says something about the state of affairs when a restaurant can't do something nice that most people would just take at face value, without the good people of mumsnet jumping all over it in this way.

No, that comment makes no sense at all in the context here. Bills restaurant is offering free drinks to men- they're not going to refuse a free drink to say the trans men in the photo on the period thread.

This is the gender critical version of trans activists declaring any and every random thing is transphobic.

IMVFHO, the difference is that women don't really care if men get a free beer on Fathers Day or have men only swim sessions, we actually care about being treated unequally yet again.
Whereas if women are offered those things a man will sue to put a stop to it.

And imo that's one of the biggest flaws with the current equality legislation. It just shouldn't be left to individuals who are impacted to get the law upheld. It leaves 'justice' available to people who can afford it.

This.

Hallyup89 · Today 08:15
I don't see the issue as long as all women and transwomen get a free drink on Mother's Day. You're stirring unnecessarily (and probably talking to some young person who didn't know how the hell to respond to you).“

this ^

Why would somebody who presents as a woman and believes themselves to be a woman be upset about a restaurant offering free drinks to women? That makes no sense. They'd just happily accept their free drink.

This thread is so stupid.