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Free beer for men at Bills' restaurant

162 replies

Tania64 · 01/06/2022 21:20

Bills are offering free beer to men for Father's day. I asked them on their live chat if Transmen are included in the offer. The reply was 'it shouldn't be a problem'. So I replied 'ok so as Transmen are bio women are all bio women included in the offer in line with equality?' The answer 'I'm not sure but we do consider all of our customers to be equal'. As this appears as a politicians reply & does not answer my question I have sent them an e mail with my question. I await the reply.Any thoughts?

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motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 10:23

I didn't get a response from Bill's after a week so decided to ring my local branch, the woman (the manager?) I spoke to told me that they have men's and women's toilets rather than unisex.

I asked what would they do if there was a man in the women’s toilet and she said that it was company policy to contact the police if there was an issue with patrons causing trouble in the restaurant and staff were not to approach them, I asked her what would happen if a man wearing a dress was in the women's toilet not causing trouble but women found them offensive and she didn't really understand what I was talking about and repeated that if it became an issue and escalated then the police would be called.

I honestly don't have any faith that Bill's are interested in women and children's safety and will not be eating there.

KimikosNightmare · 05/06/2022 14:49

Neveresque · 05/06/2022 14:23

"The OP and this thread is making the gender critical cause look ridiculous. It isn't raising issues."

"Dismissing another woman's opinion"

So we're in agreement, your first comment was misogynistic.

No. Sarcasm probably isn't your thing. "Misogynistic" or "internalised misogyny" is such a knee jerk response on here.

This is ridiculous. Restaurant offers free drinks to men and the OP's first reaction is "what about trans men???"

Neveresque · 05/06/2022 14:23

KimikosNightmare · 05/06/2022 13:51

Dismissing another woman's opinion with the catchall gotcha of "misogynistic" sounds , well pretty misogynistic to me.

"The OP and this thread is making the gender critical cause look ridiculous. It isn't raising issues."

"Dismissing another woman's opinion"

So we're in agreement, your first comment was misogynistic.

KimikosNightmare · 05/06/2022 13:51

Neveresque · 05/06/2022 13:30

Telling women they're not raising awareness correctly sounds pretty misogynistic to me.

Dismissing another woman's opinion with the catchall gotcha of "misogynistic" sounds , well pretty misogynistic to me.

Neveresque · 05/06/2022 13:30

KimikosNightmare · 05/06/2022 12:33

The OP and this thread is making the gender critical cause look ridiculous. It isn't raising issues.

Telling women they're not raising awareness correctly sounds pretty misogynistic to me.

KimikosNightmare · 05/06/2022 12:33

The OP and this thread is making the gender critical cause look ridiculous. It isn't raising issues.

GCRich · 05/06/2022 12:27

Snoozer11 · Yesterday 17:22

Why the fuck are you targetting Bills?

Bills aren't writing documents for the health service where they remove the 'women'. They're not harping on about menstruating or chestfeeding. They're not an elected MP who's opening prison cells in a women's prison to men, suggesting that men can grow a cervix or stating that women have penises. They're not sending death threats to JKR or organising pile ons to Rosie Duffield.

So of course, you choose to pick a fight with them.

Use your nugget and think about the following questions.

Do you really think this is a way to get people on your side?

Do you sound any less batshit than the blue haired TRAs?

The answer to both questions is 'No'.

Is OP "targetting Bill's" or is OP considering taking an opportunity to raise issues in the hope that by raising issues issues are raised?

I honestly think that when companies make an offer for men or women is is worth asking them eactly that they mean. It might even help them anticipate a problem and they might be grateful. It might simply educate the person who has to deal with the query.

I think you sound somewhat batshit for thinking that it is batshit to make sure that - in a very confused world - people (making decisions at Bills) are not confused.

Bollindger · 05/06/2022 09:05

This is so easy to solve. Just show Bills your child or a copy of the Birthcert of your child and your ID.
If you look like a man free beer on Father's , if you look like a woman, free Mother's Day drink, if your the step parent you would need to be with the child.
I don't care how you dress , but in your heart you know the truth.....

PrelateChuckles · 04/06/2022 21:17

Tania64 · 04/06/2022 16:51

If you re read you will see I did not use the word new. In terms of regulations you must be living under a rock. Just one example amongst many is the fact that 'trans women' can legally compete in female sports. Do you need more? Are you not able to google yourself?

OP: "My desired outcome is to bring to the fore front the stupidity of the new self identifying regulations."

Also OP: "If you re read you will see I did not use the word new"

It's the dishonesty I can't stand. I'm out.

LittleBearPad · 04/06/2022 17:57

Tania64 · 04/06/2022 16:53

Please see my reply to prelatechuckles.

And Bills and free beer is the best way to make your point OP?

KimikosNightmare · 04/06/2022 17:41

littlelill · 04/06/2022 16:50

What's with all the policing how women protest in this thread?

Have we been infiltrated by TRAs?

I have been deleted for saying this thread is so ridiculous that I thought it was a put up job to make the women who post on here look ridiculous.

KittenKong · 04/06/2022 17:27

I’m guessing the OP is turning around what would happen if the bar said they were giving our free beer to mums on Mother’s Day (as did happen ‘not all mothers are female’ etc) and the capitulation of companies at the first whiff of protest.

Snoozer11 · 04/06/2022 17:22

Why the fuck are you targetting Bills?

Bills aren't writing documents for the health service where they remove the 'women'. They're not harping on about menstruating or chestfeeding. They're not an elected MP who's opening prison cells in a women's prison to men, suggesting that men can grow a cervix or stating that women have penises. They're not sending death threats to JKR or organising pile ons to Rosie Duffield.

So of course, you choose to pick a fight with them.

Use your nugget and think about the following questions.

  1. Do you really think this is a way to get people on your side?
  1. Do you sound any less batshit than the blue haired TRAs?

The answer to both questions is 'No'.

Motnight · 04/06/2022 17:06

I'm out! You are bonkers, Op 😂

Tania64 · 04/06/2022 16:53

Motnight · 04/06/2022 15:55

What law?

Please see my reply to prelatechuckles.

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Tania64 · 04/06/2022 16:51

PrelateChuckles · 04/06/2022 15:21

My desired outcome is to bring to the fore front the stupidity of the new self identifying regulations

Which new regulations do you mean?

If you re read you will see I did not use the word new. In terms of regulations you must be living under a rock. Just one example amongst many is the fact that 'trans women' can legally compete in female sports. Do you need more? Are you not able to google yourself?

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littlelill · 04/06/2022 16:50

What's with all the policing how women protest in this thread?

Have we been infiltrated by TRAs?

Motnight · 04/06/2022 15:55

What law?

PrelateChuckles · 04/06/2022 15:21

My desired outcome is to bring to the fore front the stupidity of the new self identifying regulations

Which new regulations do you mean?

Tania64 · 04/06/2022 15:20

NotDavidTennant · 02/06/2022 12:14

I'm not sure what hassling the customer service staff of Bill's restaurant is meant to achieve. What is your desired outcome here?

My desired outcome is to bring to the fore front the stupidity of the new self identifying regulations. This is after all the feminist board where I assumed that my fellow bio women would back me or at least intelligently discuss how we can fight against this law by showing how in reality self identification causes problems in all situations in life. Otherwise I would have put this in the AIBU category instead of the feminist one!!

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Thelnebriati · 03/06/2022 13:01

Screenshots have been taken you say? Here is my surprised face. 🙄

Merrythoughts7 · 03/06/2022 11:30

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RepublicOfNarnia · 03/06/2022 09:10

People never fail to surprise me in their sheer dedication to utter jobless behaviour.

TheBiologyStupid · 02/06/2022 21:43

Yup, I wasn't going with "It would be brilliant" - just "Reminds me of".

Musomama1 · 02/06/2022 21:40

Actually I agree, it's a bad idea :) the sun must have gotten to me today!