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Free beer for men at Bills' restaurant

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Tania64 · 01/06/2022 21:20

Bills are offering free beer to men for Father's day. I asked them on their live chat if Transmen are included in the offer. The reply was 'it shouldn't be a problem'. So I replied 'ok so as Transmen are bio women are all bio women included in the offer in line with equality?' The answer 'I'm not sure but we do consider all of our customers to be equal'. As this appears as a politicians reply & does not answer my question I have sent them an e mail with my question. I await the reply.Any thoughts?

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BootsAndRoots · 11/06/2022 17:50

I can imagine that this restaurant will just drop the free beer and refuse to do any giveaways in the future if their staff are inundated with lots of people trying to ask them gotcha questions. It's not worth the hassle.

ghostwhip · 11/06/2022 17:41

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So you won't go anywhere that only has one toilet, because it's unisex, and you won't go anywhere that only has separate toilets for men and women.

Where exactly DO you go?

ghostwhip · 11/06/2022 17:17

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babyjellyfish · 11/06/2022 16:51

motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 12:05

I think you missed my pp, I'm looking for clarification from Bill's on their toilet policy.

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Why? Because they are offering a free beer to men on Father's Day?

Why are you so bothered about Bill's?

Do you boycott places like Costa and Starbucks which typically only have one toilet?

saraclara · 11/06/2022 16:49

etur · 11/06/2022 16:15

Calling women idiotic?

Excuse me if I don't value your opinion, what have you done to improve women's safety this week?

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No. I'm saying that it's idiotic to make a huge fuss over Bill's offering free beer to men, pestering their restaurant staff for answers to questions that are way outside their pay grade, and then suddenly turning it into a toilets issue. It's embarrassing.

And for the record, this week I have spent about 12 hours keeping some of the most vulnerable women in the country, safe. The toilets at Bill's could not be any less important to them.

etur · 11/06/2022 16:15

saraclara · 11/06/2022 16:04

Surely anything that spreads the light furthur is good, it's boots-on-the-ground protesters and activists like the women in this thread who will help us win the war.

It really isn't. Stuff like this makes us look idiotic, and consequently not to be taken seriously.

Calling women idiotic?

Excuse me if I don't value your opinion, what have you done to improve women's safety this week?

saraclara · 11/06/2022 16:04

Surely anything that spreads the light furthur is good, it's boots-on-the-ground protesters and activists like the women in this thread who will help us win the war.

It really isn't. Stuff like this makes us look idiotic, and consequently not to be taken seriously.

etur · 11/06/2022 15:59

thedancingbear · 11/06/2022 12:26

If this thread isn’t an exercise in petty intolerance, then I don’t know what is.

Why are you gatekeeping how women protest?

Surely anything that spreads the light furthur is good, it's boots-on-the-ground protesters and activists like the women in this thread who will help us win the war.

thedancingbear · 11/06/2022 12:26

If this thread isn’t an exercise in petty intolerance, then I don’t know what is.

motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 12:05

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 11/06/2022 12:04

from the prospect of some trans identified women getting a free beer that was intended for men?

erm....

I think you missed my pp, I'm looking for clarification from Bill's on their toilet policy.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 11/06/2022 12:04

from the prospect of some trans identified women getting a free beer that was intended for men?

erm....

motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 12:02

LittleBearPad · 11/06/2022 12:00

This is excellent Grin

They’ll miss your custom OP

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Thanks Bear, I like to think I'm helping keeping women and girls safe in my own little way.

RepublicOfNarnia · 11/06/2022 12:01

This type of thing is exactly why GC feminists have the reputation they do.

LittleBearPad · 11/06/2022 12:01

Neveresque · 05/06/2022 13:30

Telling women they're not raising awareness correctly sounds pretty misogynistic to me.

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Telling a woman they’re being ridiculous isn’t misogynistic.

LittleBearPad · 11/06/2022 12:00

motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 10:40

Have you ever even been to a Bills?

No, I hadn't heard of them before this thread and have now added them to my boycott list.

This is excellent Grin

They’ll miss your custom OP

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 11/06/2022 11:15

man alive. i'm as terfy as they come, but this is looking like the definition of why we can't have nice things

let Bills do something nice for Dads on fathers day without giving them the third degree.

this is free beer, not prisons or hospital wards. focus, people!

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motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 11:03

At the very least, if you wish to establish whether an establishment is prepared to act in whatever way you think appropriate, your conversation might go better if you gave the person on the other end some context ("Are you aware of the potential change in the law" or similar).

That's a good idea, they were in a bit of a rush when I rang them last night.

I'll try again when they are quieter

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LondonQueen · 11/06/2022 10:52

Don't see the issue, I've been to lots of places where I've had a free drink for my birthday or mother's day, even before I was a mother!

erinaceus · 11/06/2022 10:44

Sorry I didn't mean for the strikeout there ^^

erinaceus · 11/06/2022 10:43

There are quite a lot of people arguably most people who are not engaged in the transgender/GC debate. The entire issue and conversation is not on their radar. Among them, quite possibly, is the person on the Bills live chat in the OP and/or the woman @motherandchildreunion spoke to.

I suspect that if you aggressively question these people about hypothetical cross-dressing men in their loos, or women claiming free beer on father's day, apparently out of nowhere, you just sound a bit bonkers TBH. At the very least, if you wish to establish whether an establishment is prepared to act in whatever way you think appropriate, your conversation might go better if you gave the person on the other end some context ("Are you aware of the potential change in the law" or similar).

motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 10:40

Have you ever even been to a Bills?

No, I hadn't heard of them before this thread and have now added them to my boycott list.

saraclara · 11/06/2022 10:33

motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 10:23

I didn't get a response from Bill's after a week so decided to ring my local branch, the woman (the manager?) I spoke to told me that they have men's and women's toilets rather than unisex.

I asked what would they do if there was a man in the women’s toilet and she said that it was company policy to contact the police if there was an issue with patrons causing trouble in the restaurant and staff were not to approach them, I asked her what would happen if a man wearing a dress was in the women's toilet not causing trouble but women found them offensive and she didn't really understand what I was talking about and repeated that if it became an issue and escalated then the police would be called.

I honestly don't have any faith that Bill's are interested in women and children's safety and will not be eating there.

I imagine they'll be gutted to lose you.

Have you ever even been to a Bills?

Conflictedunicorn · 11/06/2022 10:30

Hallyup89 · 02/06/2022 08:15

I don't see the issue as long as all women and transwomen get a free drink on Mother's Day. You're stirring unnecessarily (and probably talking to some young person who didn't know how the hell to respond to you).

Why would transwomen get a drink on Mother’s Day? They’re not mothers