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Free beer for men at Bills' restaurant

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Tania64 · 01/06/2022 21:20

Bills are offering free beer to men for Father's day. I asked them on their live chat if Transmen are included in the offer. The reply was 'it shouldn't be a problem'. So I replied 'ok so as Transmen are bio women are all bio women included in the offer in line with equality?' The answer 'I'm not sure but we do consider all of our customers to be equal'. As this appears as a politicians reply & does not answer my question I have sent them an e mail with my question. I await the reply.Any thoughts?

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thedancingbear · 19/06/2022 14:48

Blap · 19/06/2022 10:46

I don't think there's any need to ask Morrisons who qualifies for this offer 😡

So what? Some trans people get a free breakfast?

You and I doubtless share some concerns about some aspects of the trans thing. But railing against this is pretty much the definition of petty intolerance.

BootsAndRoots · 19/06/2022 13:47

ZombieMumEB · 19/06/2022 10:49

How does one tell if someone is a dad?

Are they ADAB? (Assigned Dad At Birth)

If I make a dad joke, does that make me a dad?

Yes, typically men are assigned dad at the birth of their children.

Fuzzino · 19/06/2022 12:27

I don't think there's any need to ask Morrisons who qualifies for this offer 😡

I haven't shopped in Morrisons since this incident

metro.co.uk/2019/03/16/transgender-woman-18-sexually-assaulted-girl-10-morrisons-toilet-8914577/

Fuzzino · 19/06/2022 12:25

GoodJanetBadJanet · 19/06/2022 11:39

Have you ever even been to a Bills?

No, I hadn't heard of them before this thread and have now added them to my boycott list.
For offering free beer to Dads on Father's Day?!
This thread's bonkers.

It's not just that, they weren't able to offer a clear toilet policy either.

AuntTwacky · 19/06/2022 12:16

Tania64 · 01/06/2022 21:20

Bills are offering free beer to men for Father's day. I asked them on their live chat if Transmen are included in the offer. The reply was 'it shouldn't be a problem'. So I replied 'ok so as Transmen are bio women are all bio women included in the offer in line with equality?' The answer 'I'm not sure but we do consider all of our customers to be equal'. As this appears as a politicians reply & does not answer my question I have sent them an e mail with my question. I await the reply.Any thoughts?

First world problems

RJnomore1 · 19/06/2022 12:10

ZombieMumEB · 19/06/2022 10:49

How does one tell if someone is a dad?

Are they ADAB? (Assigned Dad At Birth)

If I make a dad joke, does that make me a dad?

They ask them to dance on the way in to separate dads and non dads.

GoodJanetBadJanet · 19/06/2022 11:39

Have you ever even been to a Bills?

No, I hadn't heard of them before this thread and have now added them to my boycott list.
For offering free beer to Dads on Father's Day?!
This thread's bonkers.

ZombieMumEB · 19/06/2022 10:49

How does one tell if someone is a dad?

Are they ADAB? (Assigned Dad At Birth)

If I make a dad joke, does that make me a dad?

Blap · 19/06/2022 10:46

I don't think there's any need to ask Morrisons who qualifies for this offer 😡

Free beer for men at Bills' restaurant
ineverthought · 12/06/2022 08:51

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LittleBearPad · 12/06/2022 06:43

motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 12:02

Thanks Bear, I like to think I'm helping keeping women and girls safe in my own little way.

I think I should have said hilarious not excellent to make my point more clearly

MargaritaPie · 12/06/2022 02:41

Tania64 · 01/06/2022 21:20

Bills are offering free beer to men for Father's day. I asked them on their live chat if Transmen are included in the offer. The reply was 'it shouldn't be a problem'. So I replied 'ok so as Transmen are bio women are all bio women included in the offer in line with equality?' The answer 'I'm not sure but we do consider all of our customers to be equal'. As this appears as a politicians reply & does not answer my question I have sent them an e mail with my question. I await the reply.Any thoughts?

Is there any problem with what they're doing? If not may I suggest just leaving them to it and not bothering them?

HeArInGhandsgirl11 · 11/06/2022 23:06

Dashdotdotdash · 02/06/2022 08:39

Any thoughts?

Mostly that I don't care.

🙏

Sallypally0 · 11/06/2022 22:01

Any thoughts?

Yes. You are being an arse.

They are offering free beer to men on fathers day. Get over yourself.

saraclara · 11/06/2022 21:51

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What on earth do you expect the wait staff to do if someone who looks 'a little bit man-ish' goes into the women's toilets? Seriously? I know a couple of natal women who could be described thus.
Are you really expecting a 20 year old duty manager to approach her and ask her if she's a woman? And if the person says yes (even if it becomes more obvious that they're trans) what do they do then?

KittenKong · 11/06/2022 21:44

*stunt

KittenKong · 11/06/2022 21:43

Funny how men pulling the same stung get pats on the head and free stuff

Justjoyce · 11/06/2022 21:36

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thedancingbear · 11/06/2022 21:24

motherandchildreunion · 11/06/2022 10:40

Have you ever even been to a Bills?

No, I hadn't heard of them before this thread and have now added them to my boycott list.

Actual lol. I’m sure bills will be devastated to be boycotted by people who don’t frequent them anyway.

this thread can’t be real?

babyjellyfish · 11/06/2022 21:17

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Why?

What do you actually expect them to do if a trans person is in one of their restaurants and uses the toilets for the opposite sex?

Do you think places like Bill's can afford to have a member of waiting staff on toilet duty making sure that no one who looks biologically male goes into the women's toilets?

There are plenty of legitimate battles to be fought here. Write to your MP about the conversion therapy ban, self ID, women's sports, single sex hospital wards, whatever you care the most about. Challenge your workplaces diversity policy if you don't feel that women's rights are being respected. Donate to gender critical crowdfunders for people like Allison Bailey and Maya Forstater who are actually using the legal system to fight the good fight.

But low paid restaurant managers at Bill's are the wrong target for your activism, and this sort of thing makes the gender critical movement look like a bunch of insane nutters.

Ahgoonyegirlye · 11/06/2022 20:49

You honestly have nothing better to do than harass wait staff about this nonsense? Wise. Up.

ghostwhip · 11/06/2022 18:19

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babyjellyfish · 11/06/2022 18:12

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So are you emailing all cafes and restaurants to ask about their toilet setup?

Or just Bill's?

It seems to me like Bill's gave you a pretty solid answer about their toilets, it's not clear what more you want.

What answer would have been satisfactory from your point of view?

saraclara · 11/06/2022 17:54

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Surely a single toilet (as opposed to a row of cubicles) is the safest place to be for a woman, be it unisex or single sex. How am I at risk from going to the single room unisex/disabled toilet at Costa?

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