Times article suggested Penny Mordaunt as likely replacement for Johnson

It might be rare but some people are born with 6 fingers

Humans have 5 fingers on each hand, 2 legs , 2 arms, one head

It might be rare but some people are born deaf. Humans still have 5 senses , hearing sight touch taste and smell

Sometimes things aren't quite right. It can be distressing to those people
Because they know there is something wrong, something that is observable by others who can also see something wrong

If it's not complicated for them why do you want to make it so ?

Sex is binary - baby makers and baby havers and people who can't do one or the other are real humans with feelings not sone hypothetical creature to muse over

It might be rare, but some XY people do produce large gametes.

See for example.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2190741/

No, you are still pretending to misunderstand. It's binary. XY people do not produce large gametes, even in the very rare cases where other things have gone wrong in their development and they have some physical characteristics that would normally be found in people with XX chromosomes. Not functioning ovaries, though, and therefore not eggs. That's just not going to happen Disorders in a few people do not change that there is a binary, in the same way as people who are missing other parts of their anatomy through chromosomal errors are still human, and don't change the characteristics that humans typically have.

An adult xx who isn't able to give birth is usually seen as an adult human female with a reproductive problem as opposed to a man who no one would expect to be able to give birth

Thank you very much for pointing out my grammatical error. I think your contribution @SamphirethePogoingStickerist really adds to this thread.

Are you new to this?

If by that you mean, am I new to trying to understand what people mean when they say something like Boris knows what a woman is, but Penny Mordant does not then yes. I think I have narrowed it down to either an adult human with the anatomy to give birth, or someone who is XX, which of course are not entirely the same thing. It of course may be that different people saying the same thing, mean different things.

Just answered my own question. If PM makes the shortlist against a "GC" candidate I will be joining the Conservative Party to vote against her.

It's not the Labour Party. It doesn't work like that.

You have to be a member for three months to vote in a leadership election. If you join now you will almost certainly be in time. There will be several weeks of shenanigans before any vote even if BOJO goes tomorrow (which he won’t).
quite a lit riding on this - worth joining and helping give the country some decent leadership.

Lurkingandlaughing might be a good username.

If you're still confused, we can't help you. Lots of posters have been gracious enough to spend a lot of time explaining it.

Back to the OP, Con Home has an article outlining who's called on him the go, and the workings of a vote with links to other sources:

www.conservativehome.com/parliament/2022/06/the-26-conservative-mps-who-have-called-on-johnson-to-go.html

It seems utterly unlikely that anything is going to be known until after the Platinum Jubilee, but Tory grandees such as Hague were saying on Tuesday that something seems likely to happen, possibly even next week:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/6dcd07cc-e0c2-11ec-8bdd-c253e043f5f0?shareToken=b6e3c3c6c357f90ecff86e99cb5e2dc8

See, many people with, and organisations that support people with, DSDs have asked lots of times not to be used like this.

A hiccup in genetic coding does not change the facts that human beings come in 2 sexes.

Just as people with one leg don't change the fact that human beings are bi-pedal.

You really are just rehashing tired old daftness. Even those who lurk will be laughing at you!

THEIR

Are you new to this?

Because you are rehashing supposedly clever questions that got laughed out of court years ago.

We, gender critical women, are quite happy to bat such silliness away but you might like to consider the facts: many MN women have jobs in various STEM areas and will give you chapter and verse at the drop of a hat

Be a good chap and stop asking trite questions, presumably thinking you are approaching a Gotcha! All you are approaching is a snigger.

Just look at the single pair of chromosomes that are define your sex.
It amounts to approx 4.3478% of your genetic material.
I wonder if you have any clue how massive a difference that actually is?
There is about the same amount of genetic differences between humans & apes are there is between male & female humans.

How much of the sex chromosome actually defines which sex you are?

Human beings are a sexually dimorphic species.
One half are called women & this name was given to those who have XX chromosomes, the other half are men & carry XY chromosomes.

Oh heck I am confused again, because another poster was saying that women are those who could give birth, but that isn't limited to XX.

Ah good, that helps a lot, sex is binary except for people who it is not. Thanks for the clarification.

Ah so some (a small number) of human females have XY chromosomes. Thank you for the clarification.

Great Post @Snugglepumpkin

Ben Wallace?

@jgw1

We are not other animals so they are irrelevant to the point you are failing to make.
DSDs are also completely irrelevant to your definition & have nothing to do with the topic of gender ideology.
Those people are not transpeople, they are just people who have a DSD which is a completely different thing.

Human beings are a sexually dimorphic species.
One half are called women & this name was given to those who have XX chromosomes, the other half are men & carry XY chromosomes.

Humans have not developed mutations that allow them to switch from one sex to the other by the use of drugs, surgery, environmental factors or wishful thinking.
Whatever they do, they remain the sex that was determined at conception.

Gender used to be a normal word that tended to be used as a more polite way of defining the sex of a human.
Now it's used as a fantasy signifier of what some people want to force others to pretend, based on nothing but soft science twaddle.

This intentional corruption of the meaning of a sex based word has been used to try to cloud the issue for the hard of thinking.
It doesn't work.
Just like religion, one can say they are a follower of that belief system without actually changing the reality of their biological sex.

People now define gender as being something other than an indicator of sex, so your gender does not determine your sexual classification.
A biological man remains a biological man & a biological woman remains a biological woman no matter how they identify.
You cannot identify into a sex class.

Hard (aka real) science, where facts matter, continues to prove that Gender, as the word is used nowadays, is a load of unscientific nonsense founded on ideology rather than reality.

Just look at the single pair of chromosomes that are define your sex.
It amounts to approx 4.3478% of your genetic material.
I wonder if you have any clue how massive a difference that actually is?
There is about the same amount of genetic differences between humans & apes are there is between male & female humans.

There is no experiment (that I know of) that can be repeated successfully in a lab to show that this pair of chromosomes which determine sex in human beings who have already been conceived, can be manipulated into changing an X into a Y or a Y into an X.

There is no widespread mutation present in the human gene pool, common enough to be borne by every person who says they are 'trans', that has been identified as being related to what you think of as Gender.
There is a big enough sample with all the shouty people on Twitter etc... that it should have been easy to find if it existed.

Even if there was a 'gender gene', it still would not change the reality of the genetic sex you are at the point of conception.

Leave out the intellectual wankery that defines the soft sciences, even if they have tried to shove in some stats to make it look like real science.
None of it proves anything & it relies on interpretation which is subject to personal bias.

Show everyone your repeatable results that demonstrate this with hard data from reputable research facilities to dispute this, or stop pretending that you don't know the words woman & man have been used for centuries to define the two distinct & immutable sexes in humans.

Reality doesn't care about peoples feelings.

Even in the very very small group of edge cases where there are problems with development, someone with XY chromosomes is not going to end up with ovaries that produce large gametes. You might get a very small number of XY-individuals who have some of the external (and possibly some internal) characteristics of women, but not functional ovaries. It's extremely rare, and not at all a typical presentation of a transwoman with XY chromosomes who wants to present as a women, if that is what you are indirectly pretending to believe. The fact that there are a few people whose development is disordered does not change the fact that sex is binary.

I wonder if Zahawi might be a contender - in the event there is a confidence vote and Boris doesn't survive it. He positioned himself quite well over the Warwick business for example. The schools guidance is yet to come but he's more or less said all the right things there (pretty sure he quickly rowed back from the "trans child" words in that Times article).

Javid has said he will go further on the Cass Review by ordering that other review. Like the schools guidance though, we sit and wait.

Javid and Zahawi are both unlikely to be touched by the covid inquiry. They'll want a leader who won't be criticised in that. It's possible that Javid would be but he came in towards the end, and that Christmas lockdown didn't happen.

We don't have any political heavyweights any more in any parties, which is a great shame. There's no one who gives a rousing speech or has clear principles they stick to. I'd like that in at least one of our political leaders, which doesn't seem too much to ask?!

What then does female mean?

Magnolia Taint already helpfully linked you to an article that might help you with your comprehension. You really should stop being so entitled and expecting people on here to spoon feed you with answers.

Female ( in respect of mammals )

Of the class that ( at the expected age and conditions , body working as expected ) gives birth

Yes, yes, quite clear that a woman is an adult female.
What then does female mean?