Transgender Female

That's not how the ideology works. That would, in old money, be "transsexual".

Using the word "female" is a very deliberate choice; it tells us that the person isn't satisfied with just taking "women", but wants "female", too. It's the last remaining word we have, so probably generates an extra frisson.

Anyone using language in this way is not someone that I would challenge in a work setting. I certainly wouldn't query their self-perception. Are you familiar with the Gamestop incident?

Exactly what I was about to say.

Go along and listen. As you say their specialist skills sound fascinating. I would be intrigued to discuss how people's expressions can reveal so much. Fascinating. Hopefully someone with such knowledge wouldn't be trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes and just trot out thought terminating clichés. Let us know how you get on.

There is no such thing as a transgender female, the trans part means in fact 'not female' so it's a 'not female female'.

Female is a fact, not an optional choice. The problem is that as 'woman' was commandeered and now is a meaningless 'anyone of any sex who chooses a label that means.... something, but no one quite dares say it means female and those who would like to be perceived as biologically female but are not' and a lot of attempts to use stereotypes and feelings to justify it, women have retreated to 'female' as a means of talking about the 50% of the population who are identifiable as a sex class.

This is not making male people happy and now 'female' is under attack.

And this is the point that the answer has to become a straight, blunt, 'no'.

There is never going to be any reciprocal respect, there is never going to be any care or understanding for what this does to females, and I'm afraid at this point hurting feelings stops being the primary concern. The rights of the female 50% of the population not to be subordinated to the best interests of less than 1% of male people is. And the fact that less than 1% of male people have been able to do all this damage to 50% of the entire population is the reason why this is a very, very serious issue and being 'kind' is no longer possible.

Gosh, was it only days ago people were telling us no one was going to expand the word female? And that all transitioned males understood and respected they were not female?

Interesting areas of specialism: “deception and body language”.

@crumpet gender identity ideologues use the words relating to the thing they want to be. So a man becomes a 'trans woman' or now, 'trans female' and a woman becomes a 'trans man' or trans male'.

If you remember that the ideology is all about undermining reality it's quite easy to remember which way round they use them.

For me, I try not to use any of their terms because I don't follow the ideology and it obscures reality, making it harder to communicate.

Exactly why everyone should insist on woman meaning adult female. As you say they will colonise any words we use. Just stop playing their games.

They colonised the 'word' woman because that's the word we use.

We started using the word 'female' to communicate that we are referring to the people we used to (and I still do) call 'women'. Of course they have now starting using that.

If we started calling ourselves flarblegarps, or ooglebargs or floomitarques, they would colonise those words, too.

We aren't supposed to have a word that only refers to use without some kinds of men who also want to be included. They can gtfo.

i find the phrase confusing to read (wouldn’t be confusing if the person who identified as such was in front of me). Am never quite sure whether the intention is a female who has transitioned and identifies as male or the other way around. Which is probably why the phrase is gaining traction - to obscure.