Hyde Park 29th May 12pm

I certainly couldn't imagine looking at myself in the mirror and not rethinking. The triggers are pretty obvious.

I more or less agree with this, except that I suspect it looks different in photos than it did in real life. Some of the photos look bad, but I would guess that in real life the visual distinction between a black balaclava and blackface is immediately obvious.

Those pictures make me v uncomfortable. For those of us who follow those issues closely, we know the intended target of his satire, but the vast majority of the population wouldnt. Whilst not blackface, that outfit and the wig could easily be misconstrued.

So whilst Mr Menno was not being racist in who he was targetting with his satire, his lack of insight into why this get up could cause offense to black people i think could be seen as racism. I certainly couldn't imagine looking at myself in the mirror and not rethinking. The triggers are pretty obvious.

This thread for a start!

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FWR has an ongoing problem with racism and the regulars aren't policing themselves, it doesn't surprise me one bit that posters who are calling them out on it are getting their posts reported and deleted.

Oh for crying out loud, is this going to be the new tactic? I notice some TRA earlier on the thread said the poster was "mass reported"; there's only one group doing that on this board.

Welcome to mumsnet, chumleedot.

Do you have any evidence you can show so that we can see how you arrived at that somewhat startling conclusion? Or is it just a completely unfounded accusation?

Oh for god's sake! Is that going to be 'proof' now?

Ad Hom attacks are not allowed by anyone, for any reason and, whilst I am on my phone and the Search is crap, I tried to find other posts by them and found nothing. If someone else here 'knows' Wendii or can find other posts then it will be posts in this thread, but if not then it will be something like them being a previously banned poster.

But the conspiracy theory style crap is just that, crap!

I personally haven't reported anyone, I rarely do.

Because her comments will have been mass reported.

Or was Wendiii the poster who started with a fairly ad hom attack on white Mumsnetters? Because that's something clearly not allowed in.tbe T+ C's - the ad hom attacks that is.

Oh! Maybe have Search and see if all of Wendi's posts everywhere have gone! Might be a pbp? Who knows?

Why have all Wendy's posts calling out blackface been deleted?

Don't move out here to rural NotLondon! The lack of apparent diversity would horrify you.

But, as with London crowds, I suspect you may have mistaken 'white' for not diverse. Or that the UK is a predominantly white country by virtue of geography and literally eons of development.

That's evolution not racism.

calling women like us, mainly black women, Head Girls

This is a name used about a particular type of GC feminist, not black women per se.

No. I expect every adult to be able to recognise context and the wide variety of human experiences. To value those differences and to focus their ire were insult is intended.

And look at the gatherings in London. An incredibly diverse city and the gatherings are virtually all white. Why do you think that is?

@SamphirethePogoingStickerist the alternative isi just accept racism because it was not meant to be racist?

Which is ineffably sad as it seems to mean that any woman who doesn't see the world exact as you do becomes, if not your enemy, your 'not friend'.

And you insult people like me who aren't racist but who don't agree that inadvertent insult should be labelled and condemned - excuse me for that, I don't have the words to say precisely what I mean as, when written without me as context, it looks and reads weak, self excusing.

I suppose it's because my age, my natural inclination and the community work in is all about knocking down barriers and walls rather than building them. No matter how firm the foundation a wall segregates the people on both sides. And that isn't my politics!

Yeah, well anyone who expect KJK to be an angel will.be disappointed. She is who she is. I don't agree with everything she says or does - just like any other person I know of.

@SamphirethePogoingStickerist agree to disagree? No that is not going to happen. But all this just confirms for me why there is no place for me in what is clearly white feminism.
I will stick with the black radical feminists and some white women who understand and fight racism.

@SamphirethePogoingStickerist I said not to take it to the black MN board unless you are black.
This event was filmed by Kellie jay to share to a wider audience. That context matters. She has also released a video defending the blackface and calling women like us, mainly black women, Head Girls.

Why is that all in blackmailers script? Is that supposed to make a point?

I can see there's absolutely no way we are going to have a discussion that includes any common ground and, again, would like to agree to disagree and move on. But I doubt that would be a good enough solution.

Like talking to a brick wall. No one did black face and you all know it. Wearing black clothing is not blackface and it’s bloody obvious it was not even meant to be.

Well, if you tell me the right answer I'll let you know!

Parody. Taking the piss. Taking the fear out of the situation by ridiculing it.