Hyde Park 29th May 12pm

Yes MN recognised the mr menno photo was racist.

I totally agree with you, please just read the thread and try to understand why black women find this board difficult to engage with.
Like I said, I had read it. I often read threads on BMN, it's an interesting and very informative place. I just don't comment on them.

I totally agree with you, please just read the thread and try to understand why black women find this board difficult to engage with.

They did remove the photos of Mr Menno's "Black Pamper" character posted to this thread for being racist, I'll give them that.

I'd already seen the BMN thread. I read things on there regularly and yes, it can be very uncomfortable sometimes but, as I understand things, it's meant to be a place where black posters can talk to other black posters. Uninterrupted. I wouldn't dream of posting on there, commenting on anything that's been said, arguing with anything that's been said or using anything that's been said to score debating points. All a bit disrespectful in my book.

They did remove the photos of Mr Menno's "Black Pamper" character posted to this thread for being racist, I'll give them that.

I’m pretty sure if you reported anything you saw that was racist it would be removed by the moderators.

I’m not going on BMN, it’s not for me. This thread was mentioned above, but nothing in the actual thread highlighted. I have seen racism accusations on MN, usually to anyone who doesn’t think Meghan or Harry are paragons of virtue, or once on a thread about missing children and why wasn’t it front page news, when it had made several newspapers on the evening they went missing. Recently saw a missing article in exactly the same way for a missing white child, not top of page, but actually a day after she went missing.

There's a 6 page thread from the weekend on BMN titled Why isn't depressing deep-seated racism on MN challenged more?

Talk turns to this board within the first 10 posts, so you might want to start there.

So completely unfounded then.

Yet we are told we are being paranoid when we suggest such shit is being done on a regular basis!

It's pretty easy to write a scipt that automatically archives a webpage at given intervals.

Is it on GitHub or whatever? We could probably do with it ourselves on this board.

It's pretty easy to write a scipt that automatically archives a webpage at given intervals. From what I can gather this is being done on FWR and a deletion message triggers a notice allowing the user to go and check the the post that has been deleted to see if it is anything juicy that they can use.

You saw it on Twitter? So it was screenshot before it was deleted, and it was deleted relatively quickly.

OK. So, regardless of the reasons it was deleted, that supports the idea that the recent increase in new posters accusing MN FWR posters of racism are here simply to generate a twitterfest.

Just another way to discredit women discussing womens rights.

If this carries on we won't be able to have an honest discussion about any topic.

Why have the moderators deleted the @chumleedot post about possible racism on this board? I've just seen a screenshot on Twitter with the intact version and the deleted message juxtaposed next to it.

You're making us look awful.

How can I be a racist when I believe in equality and see racism as a system to oppress people of colour? Racism does not just mean anyone who disagrees with you.

You are still complaining of the mote in my eye whilst ignoring the beam in your own!

Maybe whoever did call you a TRA can explain their reasoning.

How can I be a TRA when I believe in sex and see gender as a system to oppress women? TRA does not just mean anyone who disagrees with you.

I am not a racist.

Does making such a statement make a difference to something?

I am not a TRA.

If you've had experience of Zwarte Piet in The Netherlands this was a lot like that - but even more awful.

You're joking aren't you, he looked nothing like Zwarte Piet.

Some people just WANT to see racism when it's not there.

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I would guess that in real life the visual distinction between a black balaclava and blackface is immediately obvious.

He wasn't wearing a balaclava, if anything it looks worse in the videos because he is prancing around entertaining the white people like a fool.

If you've had experience of Zwarte Piet in The Netherlands this was a lot like that - but even more awful.

It is stuff like this that is used to drive a wedge between women, to give credence to the view that the type of feminism found on these boards is not for or about women of colour. If i am being brutally honest, seeing the pictures and some of the comments on here, i can see why some women of colour may draw that conclusion. Being sensitive to their very real issues is way more important than cheap point scoring.

I think that's fair BenCooperisaGod. I did change my mind about this when I saw some of the photos.

I'm also slightly bemused that Mr Menno seems to have attracted relatively little criticism compared to the women who were watching. Or maybe I'm not.