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Stella Creasy says women can have penises

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WhereAreWeNow · 28/05/2022 06:13

Stella Creasy has doubled down on her TWAW position in today's Telegraph www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/stella-creasy-jk-rowling-wrong-woman-can-have-penis/

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TheBiologyStupid · 30/05/2022 11:55

PronounssheRa · 29/05/2022 19:04

mobile.twitter.com/stellacreasy/status/1530960111610519554?cxt=HHwWhICznYaHiL8qAAAA

Stella quote tweets Labour women's declaration as they had challenged Stella's claim that she had met with them.

Stella: I met with you in 2018
LWD: we didn't launch until November 2019.

Comedy gold - has anyone archived the Twitter thread? (Not on Twitter myself.)

MarshaBradyo · 30/05/2022 11:43

Bdragon · 30/05/2022 11:41

Saying her timeline is 'impossible to read' - i.e. it's full of comments that don't support her.

Also the reference to 'grumpiness'. Hmmm, definite undertone to that, just like 'hysterical'. Silly menopausal women with their outdated outlook and moodiness.

Grumpy and hysterical

sure

I very much hope people don’t vote her back in

babyjellyfish · 30/05/2022 11:41

Saying her timeline is 'impossible to read' - i.e. it's full of comments that don't support her.

Perhaps her wriggly baby is getting in the way again.

Bdragon · 30/05/2022 11:41

Saying her timeline is 'impossible to read' - i.e. it's full of comments that don't support her.

Also the reference to 'grumpiness'. Hmmm, definite undertone to that, just like 'hysterical'. Silly menopausal women with their outdated outlook and moodiness.

Mandodari · 30/05/2022 11:29

PronounssheRa · 29/05/2022 21:50

Also for those not on twitter, Stella posted this in response to Helen Joyce, yep that's the Loretta scene from life of Brian.

Freudian slip via imagery 😂

Talk about making a show of yourself in public.
Someone should tell Ms Creasey if you are going to use a scene from a movie to insult someone, you should watch the whole movie first for fear of highlighting how dumb your own stance is.

Xenia · 30/05/2022 11:20

I don't use Twitter other than very occasionally and think a lot of people like SC might be better not being on social media so much. However I certainly support free speech for all of just about any view on all these issues.
SC is wrong on the trans issue and luckily we are still free to say that in the UK.

TrailWhale · 30/05/2022 10:44

@WhereAreWeNow linked to you in DM - thought it best not to share it all again for the sake of the woman involved.

TheBiologyStupid · 30/05/2022 10:43

Artichokeleaves · 28/05/2022 10:35

FGS. No, Stella. Not engaging in this silliness and trying to negotiate through the salad any more. No more pretending, no more trying to reasonably argue, enough now.

TW are TW. There is nothing shameful about being a TW. And the one single qualifying characteristic required to be a TW is to be male.

Women are female. There's nothing shameful about that either.

What is shameful is insulting and erasing the entire female half of the population for head pats from male people. That's bloody shameful. Get a grip for pete's sake.

Thanks Artichoke - very well said.

WhereAreWeNow · 30/05/2022 10:34

TrailWhale · 30/05/2022 08:41

The really baffling thing about this is it was in Stella's constituency that one of the gender-neutral toilet assaults occurred. So assaults from shared-sex spaces have already happened "on her own turf" yet she has no intention of engaging with the issues that caused it.

Which incident was that @TrailWhale ?

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iamlucyvanpelt · 30/05/2022 10:32

Hi @Ereshkigalangcleg!

I saw your other post about me and am quite tickled by the whole thing.

I do indeed walk among you, or rather, lurk among you. I'm not nearly as active on here as I am on the other site because I love a good argument and, well, 99% of Mumsnet users already agree with me!

Off again now before I have some sort of name change fail.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 30/05/2022 10:24

Good to see you here, @iamlucyvanpelt ! I was the one who mentioned you on the Allison Bailey thread, along with the woke bros on the ROF site. I saw that got picked up there!

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 10:18

TrailWhale · 30/05/2022 10:11

@MagnoliaTaint unfortunately you are not allowed to raise complaints related to Social Media usage through the commissioner it appears (see link 1).

Okay.

This is also an option:

labour.org.uk/complaints/

labour.org.uk/members/my-welfare/my-rights-and-responsibilities/coc-social-media/

PronounssheRa · 30/05/2022 10:14

iamlucyvanpelt · 30/05/2022 09:24

@secular111 @PronounssheRa

Hi! 😉

😂hello 👋

TrailWhale · 30/05/2022 10:11

@MagnoliaTaint unfortunately you are not allowed to raise complaints related to Social Media usage through the commissioner it appears (see link 1).

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/05/2022 09:52

She's an embarrassment, and I'm one of her constituents. I've voted for her previously, but cannot do so again based on her current views.

Do you intend to write and tell her so?

Poplia · 30/05/2022 09:33

TrailWhale · 30/05/2022 09:13

"Hello. I have tried to respond to your points on here, and to those who support you. I have also said I will meet. Can I ask now that you stop copying me into your messages and ask your supporters to stop as well as my timeline still impossible to read? Thanks." - Stella Creasy.

Why should organisations ask women not to contact an MP?

It’s mad isn’t it, it’s like she thinks all GC women live in a house together or something. She’s been dismissing the movement for so long she hasn’t noticed how much it’s grown in the four years since her one meeting with five constituents.

iamlucyvanpelt · 30/05/2022 09:24

@secular111 @PronounssheRa

Hi! 😉

IncompleteSenten · 30/05/2022 09:24

Does she not understand the job of an MP?

MagnoliaTaint · 30/05/2022 09:23

TrailWhale · 30/05/2022 07:41

Is there a way to write a formal complaint regarding your elected MP?

Yes.

www.parliament.uk/mps-lords-and-offices/standards-and-financial-interests/parliamentary-commissioner-for-standards/complaints-and-investigations/

w4mp.org/w4mp/w4mp-guides/guides-to-parliament/complaints-about-an-mp/

TrailWhale · 30/05/2022 09:13

"Hello. I have tried to respond to your points on here, and to those who support you. I have also said I will meet. Can I ask now that you stop copying me into your messages and ask your supporters to stop as well as my timeline still impossible to read? Thanks." - Stella Creasy.

Why should organisations ask women not to contact an MP?

RoyalCorgi · 30/05/2022 08:48

NecessaryScene · 30/05/2022 08:44

Posts about People's Front of Judaea as in her head it represents a silly faction bumbling around, not realising it actually reflects her own views.

It's just bizarrely dismissive considering her job - "I can't possibly meet with more than one group on a subject, or be expected to even tell them apart, and remember precisely who I've spoken to. I'm a busy politician! With a baby!"

Agreed. It is foolish of her. And of course it misrepresents the situation as if these women's groups are all squabbling with each other like far-left factions, when in fact they largely collaborate with each other, but just have a different focus. Woman's Place UK has happily platformed Maya Forstater, for example, and hosted a joint meeting with Fair Play for Women.

NecessaryScene · 30/05/2022 08:44

Posts about People's Front of Judaea as in her head it represents a silly faction bumbling around, not realising it actually reflects her own views.

It's just bizarrely dismissive considering her job - "I can't possibly meet with more than one group on a subject, or be expected to even tell them apart, and remember precisely who I've spoken to. I'm a busy politician! With a baby!"

TrailWhale · 30/05/2022 08:41

The really baffling thing about this is it was in Stella's constituency that one of the gender-neutral toilet assaults occurred. So assaults from shared-sex spaces have already happened "on her own turf" yet she has no intention of engaging with the issues that caused it.

Bdragon · 30/05/2022 08:40

Just caught up with Creasy's tweets. She's coming across as someone who thinks a bit of glib surface knowledge goes a long way, and that everyone is a lot thicker than she is.

Posts about People's Front of Judaea as in her head it represents a silly faction bumbling around, not realising it actually reflects her own views.

Posts about being hysterical, knowing how offensive it is but expecting it to fly under the radar and not be picked up for its full meaning.

She's an embarrassment, and I'm one of her constituents. I've voted for her previously, but cannot do so again based on her current views.

RoyalCorgi · 30/05/2022 08:31

Stella has just delivered a masterclass in how to dig your own political grave. I'm sure it will be used in media training sessions for politicians for years to come.

There was much to enjoy, but some personal faves:

  1. Insisting that she'd met Labour Women's Declaration in 2018, and them gently pointing out that they didn't exist in 2018.
  2. Insulting all the women's groups - made up of people who are prospective voters - by comparing them to the People's Front of Judea.
  3. Taking umbrage at JKR's tweet about "luxury beliefs", which she decided was aimed at her, even though JKR didn't mention any names. As Lucy Masoud said, If the cap fits...