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Stella Creasy says women can have penises

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WhereAreWeNow · 28/05/2022 06:13

Stella Creasy has doubled down on her TWAW position in today's Telegraph www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/stella-creasy-jk-rowling-wrong-woman-can-have-penis/

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SlightlyGeordieJohn · 28/05/2022 19:56

Basketet · 28/05/2022 19:39

Let me reword it.

I wonder how aware Keir Starmer is that Labour are losing a huge demographic of their would be electorate due to their support for this insidious ideology?

A high ranking Labour politician spouting such utter clap-trap is an indictment of the party; and this cult hellbent on erasing me/women.

There are many in Labour who put “purity of mission” ahead of being elected and so being
able to effect change.

I’d not had Keir as being in that camp.

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2022 19:56

Basketet · 28/05/2022 19:54

Well they are a bunch of so and so.

Apparently it's perfectly acceptable to insult me and reduce/erase my biology by calling me a uterus haver, a pregnant person and my vagina a front hole, etc but you can't call out/damn the political party sanctioning mass brainwashing, by pointing out their dimwittedness in doing so. 🤷‍♀️

I agree

but it’s odd how this site is practically powered by calling Tories every expletive going but one post re Labour and it’s deleted

Basketet · 28/05/2022 19:54

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2022 19:32

I assume it’s because you called Labour a bunch of so and so

other posters would barely post undeleted according to these guidelines and the amount of insults flying around

Weird

Well they are a bunch of so and so.

Apparently it's perfectly acceptable to insult me and reduce/erase my biology by calling me a uterus haver, a pregnant person and my vagina a front hole, etc but you can't call out/damn the political party sanctioning mass brainwashing, by pointing out their dimwittedness in doing so. 🤷‍♀️

ginghamstarfish · 28/05/2022 19:53

What an idiot. Another nail in the Labour Party's coffin.

Boiledbeetle · 28/05/2022 19:53

Basketet · 28/05/2022 19:39

Let me reword it.

I wonder how aware Keir Starmer is that Labour are losing a huge demographic of their would be electorate due to their support for this insidious ideology?

A high ranking Labour politician spouting such utter clap-trap is an indictment of the party; and this cult hellbent on erasing me/women.

Well he'll know from me as soon as he checks his work emails. 😡

I may have sent an email to him and Stella today telling them how thoroughly unimpressed I am with her behaviour today and his Inability to say adult human female!to

I've bloody had enough!

Basketet · 28/05/2022 19:39

Let me reword it.

I wonder how aware Keir Starmer is that Labour are losing a huge demographic of their would be electorate due to their support for this insidious ideology?

A high ranking Labour politician spouting such utter clap-trap is an indictment of the party; and this cult hellbent on erasing me/women.

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2022 19:32

Basketet · 28/05/2022 19:27

The truth?

I assume it’s because you called Labour a bunch of so and so

other posters would barely post undeleted according to these guidelines and the amount of insults flying around

Weird

Basketet · 28/05/2022 19:27

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2022 18:28

Basketet what was wrong with your post?!

The truth?

MagnoliaTaint · 28/05/2022 19:22

what does it mean to live as a woman? I wear flat shoes, I’ve got terrible bunions

😐

DrBrennerFan · 28/05/2022 19:10

BrownTableMat · 28/05/2022 11:03

What the fuck has any of this got to do with ‘sexual preferences’ or ‘gays and lesbians’?

I don’t give a fuck anymore do what you like. You want women with penis then fine in sick the lot.

MrsMidClegs · 28/05/2022 18:52

Creasy had some dealings with the beloved Tatchell didn't she, they were together trying to make misogyny a hate crime. That I think was in 2019 #greasycreasy

SpindleSheWrote · 28/05/2022 18:30

turbonerd · 28/05/2022 18:19

sorry @SpindleSheWrote ,
it was really not meant to play into such an awful ‘gotcha’.
it is the origins of the word hysterical that I find rather offensive, and very much so in this debate.

Oh no I didn't mean you! I meant the TRAs on Twitter especially (and who monitor women on here and do 'The Plop' now and again.)

Be Prepared!

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2022 18:28

Basketet what was wrong with your post?!

Snoozer11 · 28/05/2022 18:27

Stella on the patriarchy:
“Has that really changed, that idea that we indulge entitlement?"

Also Stella:
Yep, males who wish to be women are women and they should have unfiltered access to women's spaces.

turbonerd · 28/05/2022 18:19

sorry @SpindleSheWrote ,
it was really not meant to play into such an awful ‘gotcha’.
it is the origins of the word hysterical that I find rather offensive, and very much so in this debate.

MarshaBradyo · 28/05/2022 17:51

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Ha yes at this

appreciating these threads tg others feel the same

Basketet · 28/05/2022 17:49

Excuse typos - I'm bloody outraged 😠

Basketet · 28/05/2022 17:48

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SpindleSheWrote · 28/05/2022 17:47

Just to chip in about the womb thing.

I've had mine surgically removed. For the idiots at the back <waves>, this doesn't mean that 'oooh see, some women don't have wombs oooh gotcha'; it means that I NEEDED TO BE FEMALE in order to have a womb in the first place that was then surgically removed. Same with ovaries, cervix, fallopian tubes ... the lot. Still a XX though.

#Don'tHijackMyHysterectomyBro

Xenia · 28/05/2022 17:46

I neve rknow why anyone says there is transphobic hate on mumsnet. It is not so. Since the 1970s I have been very supportive of trans people when I read some autobiographies eg of April Ashley and others. However I do want the much much larger group of people who are the female sex to have their rights preserved - that is the greater good. Trans peopel can fight for their rights and those of us who are the female sex can fight for our legal protected rights which protect our sex.

Labour is going to lose a lot of votes.
I am very grateful Teresa May did not change the Uk's perfectly sensible gender change laws by the way.

RaspberryToo · 28/05/2022 17:38

@turbonerd - well apparently that comment was only meant for the likes of Peirs Morgan, so clearly she doesn't.

Even though the comment was clearly aimed at everyone who disagreed with her, the majority of whom were... WOMEN with WOMBS.

NecessaryScene · 28/05/2022 17:22

JKR chips in with a link to the Reduxx article mentioned above as contrast to Creasy's wittering.

Except she doesn't Not mentioning Creasy by name, cos she's too classy for that.

Vulnerable and traumatised women pay the highest price for luxury beliefs. These are the real world consequences of redefining woman to include the penised.

“We feel like we are part of some sick joke. This is a nightmare that we can’t wake up from.”

Stella Creasy says women can have penises
turbonerd · 28/05/2022 16:44

Does Stella know that only women and female With Wombs can be hysterical?

it is from the 1800’s I believe, and was condidered an affliction of the womb that meant women really were not to be considered as anything than overgrown children, prone to moods and fancies, and unable to have rational thoughts.
see also «if a female’s Brain is engaged in rational thinking her womb dries up to dust an crumbles and falls out».
used as points in the campaigns against women’s suffrage.

interesting that a, eh, female/male politician (I don’t know what they is identifying as today!) does not know this.

Abhannmor · 28/05/2022 15:58

Big sense of entitlement.Remote from the lives of her voters.Her seat should be safe enough though as opinion turns against the Tories. Labour could miss out on some marginal seats by alienating women ?

SheeceRearsmith · 28/05/2022 15:54

Oh FGS. You cannot be a woman and have a penis. Trans women are trans women, not women. I am sick of this nonsense. You can’t just wake up one day, pop a skirt on and call yourself female.