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Stella Creasy says women can have penises

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WhereAreWeNow · 28/05/2022 06:13

Stella Creasy has doubled down on her TWAW position in today's Telegraph www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/stella-creasy-jk-rowling-wrong-woman-can-have-penis/

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DaleTrimont · 02/06/2022 17:52

Thanks. I haven’t been there for about fifteen years and London areas can change so rapidly.

WhereAreWeNow · 02/06/2022 16:47

@DaleTrimont still very multi cultural with a large Muslim community.

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LilithRises · 02/06/2022 16:10

I'm not sure what Stella's purpose was with all the awful tweeting.

I am dismayed she is my local MP and will be for the foreseeable time.

DaleTrimont · 02/06/2022 15:18

Walthamstow used to be a multi cultural borough, (I haven’t been there for some years so I am not sure how it is now ). There used to be a large Muslim population there.
I don’t understand why someone whose job it is to represent the people in her borough, can stick to this belief when the majority of Muslim voters would be strongly against women and girls having to use mixed sex loos etc ?
I think she is a traitor to her sex. All this doubling down on Twitter but also the excuses of a “wriggly baby” stuff when it suits her to seem ditsy.

ElephantsFart · 01/06/2022 17:49

Stella Creasy is such a disappointment. I used to like her and rate her as a sound local MP.

dinosauriam · 01/06/2022 17:40

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/06/2022 17:10

I don't think for one minute Stella & co believe that Eddie Izzard is a woman.
But for her - I'm sure she won't end up in a ward with a TW, and I expect that her DD will go to a girls grammar school, or a private school. So the bottom line is - this will never effect her .

I think when well-educated MPs repeatedly tell you that they think TWAW and other people are 'bigoted' and 'transphobic' for not agreeing that we would be wise to take them at their word and limit their access to power as far as we are able by voting for candidates who do not espouse this 'flat-earther' belief.

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/06/2022 17:10

I don't think for one minute Stella & co believe that Eddie Izzard is a woman.
But for her - I'm sure she won't end up in a ward with a TW, and I expect that her DD will go to a girls grammar school, or a private school. So the bottom line is - this will never effect her .

dropthevipers · 01/06/2022 17:09

MagnoliaTaint · 01/06/2022 16:58

For some people it is about power and they are more interested wielding power within a political party than they are in governing a country.

It probably is less onerous to be in opposition, so one gets to be in the public eye and make a lot of pronouncements without having to actually do all that much in the way of making decisions/taking action. Some of the glory with less of the pressure?

So if your focus is leading the Labour party, rather than being in government, a lot of the things Labour MPs have said make more sense.

They're not trying to win over the electorate; they're playing elaborate games of internal party politics.

I honestly dont know what they think they are playing at. Thy would be better placed wearing tin foil hats and saying the earth was flat than the nonsense they currently espouse.

MagnoliaTaint · 01/06/2022 16:58

For some people it is about power and they are more interested wielding power within a political party than they are in governing a country.

It probably is less onerous to be in opposition, so one gets to be in the public eye and make a lot of pronouncements without having to actually do all that much in the way of making decisions/taking action. Some of the glory with less of the pressure?

So if your focus is leading the Labour party, rather than being in government, a lot of the things Labour MPs have said make more sense.

They're not trying to win over the electorate; they're playing elaborate games of internal party politics.

RandomUser10093 · 01/06/2022 16:40

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dropthevipers · 01/06/2022 15:08

dinosauriam · 01/06/2022 14:34

I agree and it is a really strange strategy post-Blair.
I resigned when Corbyn was elected in 2017 (a Labour MP has never won in my current area: even in the Blair years it was LibDem) as I stayed put in the Labour Party through the late 1980s helping make Labour electable again...it took a long time 1979 to 1997.
They have learned nothing, I do not want to sit through that again. Worse they have managed to add antisemitism to the mix and now an all out assault on women's sex-based rights (and Oxbridge educated female MPs are supporting this stance). They have significant support in ethnic minority communities especially in large cities and yet they ignore the religious requirements of women in those communities to single sex facilities.
Whose vote do they want? I am done with Labour/LibDem/etc

They really do think the north London dinner party circuit will be enough, added to those people they think have nowhere else to go. Seriously, it's just a sixth form debating chamber where the name of the game is virtuous point scoring. Twats.

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dinosauriam · 01/06/2022 14:34

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I agree and it is a really strange strategy post-Blair.
I resigned when Corbyn was elected in 2017 (a Labour MP has never won in my current area: even in the Blair years it was LibDem) as I stayed put in the Labour Party through the late 1980s helping make Labour electable again...it took a long time 1979 to 1997.
They have learned nothing, I do not want to sit through that again. Worse they have managed to add antisemitism to the mix and now an all out assault on women's sex-based rights (and Oxbridge educated female MPs are supporting this stance). They have significant support in ethnic minority communities especially in large cities and yet they ignore the religious requirements of women in those communities to single sex facilities.
Whose vote do they want? I am done with Labour/LibDem/etc

RandomUser10093 · 01/06/2022 14:13

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WakeWaterWalk · 01/06/2022 11:08

I think she's good at what she does. It's worked for her so far.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/06/2022 10:10

I hate reading newspapers online for this reason!

ScribblingPixie · 01/06/2022 10:09

Her Tweets to Jon Pike are startling to say the least. Claiming he's threatened to report her to her 'boss'/take legal action when his email shows he specifically said I won't sue you or report you to Keir Starmer. WTF? She's coming across as a real player - but an incompetent one.

IcakethereforeIam · 01/06/2022 10:08

It's a trap!!!

Are there any comments on the Mirror article? I've had a look but the site's so broken with ads, thumbnails and banners that I can't tell.

MagnoliaTaint · 01/06/2022 10:02

Well, I have a bit of a cold so I can do the Darth Vader parts if that helps.

NecessaryScene · 01/06/2022 10:01

I shall certainly be humming to myself as I compose in future. I'm doing it now.

MagnoliaTaint · 01/06/2022 09:58

Try writing posts in yellow and sort of narrower at the top like it's zooming away into the distance, Necessary.

NecessaryScene · 01/06/2022 09:51

Sounds like the beginning of the next Star Wars film.

😂 Maybe that is the writing style I've been unconsciously imitating this entire time. I fear you may have got me.

MagnoliaTaint · 01/06/2022 09:28

NecessaryScene · 01/06/2022 07:25

Given that she is such a Blairite I'm surprised Owen Jones is a fan.

Which shows that her strategy is working. There is a section of the consituency that will vote for that religion ahead of anything else.

But as a counterweight, there are an increasing number of people prepared to vote against that religion ahead of anything else. What remains unclear is whether those forces can be mobilised fast enough to stop permanent damage to civil liberties, women's rights, etc.

Sounds like the beginning of the next Star Wars film.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/06/2022 09:25

Sorry wrong link

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/stella-creasy-labour-deputy-leader-5709897

Ereshkigalangcleg · 01/06/2022 09:24

Oh look

www.mirror.co.uk/all-about/stella-creasy-mp