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How is being trans like being LGB?

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WandaWomblesaurus · 27/05/2022 08:41

Just as an experiment can we only have answers that show how they are like each other?

The only thing I can see is that there is an overlap between some gay/lesbian/bi people who transition.

But then there are LGB people who are a percentage of every community ie: swimmers.

So what else makes them alike?

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Babdoc · 27/05/2022 08:58

The two are mutually exclusive. Which is how we have reached the ludicrous position of lesbians being vilified for refusing partners with penises, who try to insist that they are lesbians too.
One group believes in science, facts and biology, the other denies reality in favour of gender woo. Completely incompatible, and were only tag teamed in the first place because Stonewall had become redundant and needed a new money spinner.

BrylcreamBeret · 27/05/2022 08:57

@PeekAtYou interesting that disabled and BAME people are also minorities and yet they've managed not to shoehorn themselves onto that letter spaghetti isn't it?

Feelingoktoday · 27/05/2022 08:55

Because stonewall needed another project once same sex marriage was legal. Otherwise they had achieved their objectives. So they focussed on trans. Yet for years I donated to them not realising what they were quietly doing to women’s rights. That’s why LGB was linked to the letters. Thankfully LGB alliance has been set up to represent LGB.

picklemewalnuts · 27/05/2022 08:54

They are not heteronormative.

It assumes that 'normal' is straight and gender conforming. Regressive really.

I thought a few years ago that we were finally at a place of acceptance- no one seemed to care about the several families in school with same sex parents, there was no gossip when a mum's first relationship after her divorce from the kid's dad was with a woman. My street in a pretty boring, typical area has multicultural and gay families outnumbering the straight white households. I honestly thought it was all passé.

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WandaWomblesaurus · 27/05/2022 08:53

A lot of drag queens were historically gay. The gender bending aspect was welcomed at Pride.

There's also an assumption that Transwomen are effeminate gay men.

Potentially historically lesbian women disguised themselves as men to avoid scrutiny.

I think that's as much as I can link it.

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LadyCampanulaTottington · 27/05/2022 08:52

But then wouldn’t all minority groups be lumped together too seeing as they don’t even need to be about the same thing?

LadyCampanulaTottington · 27/05/2022 08:51

I’ve never got a clear answer why they have been lumped together.

LGB is sexuality. Everything else is identity.

PeekAtYou · 27/05/2022 08:49

I assume it's about being a minority group

JoodyBlue · 27/05/2022 08:48

LGB stands for same sex attracted. All the letters after refer to straight people. They are not the same.

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WandaWomblesaurus · 27/05/2022 08:48

Feelingoktoday · 27/05/2022 08:45

I don’t understand what you are asking.

LGB is about sex.
Trans is gender ie how you identify.

they are entirely different.

any letters after LGB are about identity ie queer, etc.

This is exactly what I'm asking. So many ploppers will equate the LGB to the TQ+++

So I'm looking for answers only that describe the similarities and what logic there is for that.

I predict there is not much of it.

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nomistake · 27/05/2022 08:47

They aren't. Hence a lot of LGB people don't like being lumped in the same category.

Feelingoktoday · 27/05/2022 08:45

I don’t understand what you are asking.

LGB is about sex.
Trans is gender ie how you identify.

they are entirely different.

any letters after LGB are about identity ie queer, etc.

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