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Owen Jones sent revolting homophobic abuse

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tabbycatstripy · 22/05/2022 18:48

Owen Jones has posted some terrible homophobic abuse he received on Twitter. It’s ugly stuff. Apparently he knows who sent it (the person made no effort to hide her identity) so I hope he has informed the police.

He’s blaming it on GC ‘anti-trans’ ‘radicalisation’ anyway.

Maybe we could all list below how many times we’ve sent people abusive, threatening messages online (of any sort)?

I’ll start: 0

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nauticant · 22/05/2022 20:18

Let's look at Owen Jones' tweet:

twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1528380871778107394

Have a look at his own response to that. I can't see how one follows from the other unless he's withholding some information showing the abuser was gender critical, or in the language Jones uses "the anti-trans movement".

Clymene · 22/05/2022 20:15

The number of times I've ever said anything abusive = 0

The number of times I've ever PMed anyone anything abusive = 0

Plasmodesmata · 22/05/2022 20:13

D'you think OJ would have claimed "radicalised by GCs" if the account had appeared to belong to a man?

tabbycatstripy · 22/05/2022 20:12

I hope he hasn’t accidentally highlighted the wrong person because it was hacked. That would be truly awful.

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CafeNervosa · 22/05/2022 20:10

@Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky I’ve seen some quite lengthy and angry threads on here with lots of abusive things to say about Owen Jones. None of us can claim that we represent a whole group - especially one as loosely defined as GC which hinges around one belief only.

Kris02 · 22/05/2022 20:08

Homophobic abuse should certainly be condemned. Got to say I can't stand Owen Jones though. One of those insufferable, sanctimonious overgrown students. Ugghh. And he exaggerates his regional accent, which always annoys me.

puffyisgood · 22/05/2022 20:02

looked hacked to me, eg calling Angela Rayner a "slag bitch", racist comments aimed at Ian Wright... a flurry of bigoted abuse after years of unremarkable, isn't, posts doesn't seem to stack up from an account in which a real name and employer are visible.

HollowTalk · 22/05/2022 20:00

Going by your title, I thought that he was the one sending the messages and absolutely wasn't surprised.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 22/05/2022 19:58

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 22/05/2022 18:57

obviously LOJ shouldn’t be sent homophobic abuse but somehow I doubt GC women are behind it

Agree

ScreamingMeMe · 22/05/2022 19:55

Lots of people pointing out that she hasn’t posted for months, all v innocuous tweets, then in one day sudden leap to post loads of homophobic and racist abuse with her profile

Have other people received abuse from this account too?

I agree it sounds very dodgy. I hope the police/twitter are able to get to the bottom of it.

WithAnXXHere · 22/05/2022 19:54

That's funny because I've always found LOJ to be a massive homophobe himself...

After all, he thinks that lesbians should have sex with male-bodied people. To me, that's homophobia.

Could he be doing a bit of DARVO?

Plasmodesmata · 22/05/2022 19:52

I imagine this is why the teenage girl in the news this week was worried when he started trying to find her. It's a game to a lot of these people on Twitter it seems.

KittyLeMew · 22/05/2022 19:48

Lots of people pointing out that she hasn’t posted for months, all v innocuous tweets, then in one day sudden leap to post loads of homophobic and racist abuse with her profile clearly revealing who she is and where she works… So she’s been hacked. But that won’t prevent investigative reporter of teenage bullying victims LOJ from setting his million followers on the woman or sending a series of GC WOMEN ARE RADICALISED HOMOPHOBIC RACISTS based tweets to get everyone riled up and remembering to hate women again.

Oh and mumsnet is getting a good few mentions as a hotbed of said radicalisation.

I can’t wait for the world (but perhaps more specifically Kath Viner) to wake up to this bullying misogynistic CENSORED

Plasmodesmata · 22/05/2022 19:46

He gave enough clues it was easy to find her.

Lovelyricepudding · 22/05/2022 19:43

If we are to follow OJ''s own example then aren't we meant to declare it was made up and ask for the other sides version of events?

Simonjt · 22/05/2022 19:40

Plasmodesmata · 22/05/2022 19:33

But as I said on the other thread, wouldn't reporting it to Twitter and / or the police be a more appropriate response than publishing it widely? If genuine troll he's just fed it a lot of attention. If it's some poor woman who has been hacked he has now sent a million followers after her and potentially got her fired from her job.

Its really important that homophobia, racism etc is shown to the public, victims of abuse should never be encouraged to hide the abuse that happens to them. He hasn’t said that he hasn’t approached the police, I’d also be impressed if a million followers were after her considering he hasn’t shown who the person/twitter user is.

Owen Jones sent revolting homophobic abuse
Foilball · 22/05/2022 19:40

#notallGCs

donquixotedelamancha · 22/05/2022 19:35

Like someone has said, if this isn’t a hacked account the police should charge someone. It’s appalling behaviour.

If it isn't a hacked account then I'm sure they will, it shouldn't be hard to find them from what he describes. Rightly so, terrible behaviour.

TYOJ wants a debate about who 'radicalises' people to be abusive on the internet. I have two thoughts on that:

  1. I don't think it's constructive to use the same word for verbal abuse as we do for terrorism.
  1. I think the biggest responsibility (apart from the perpetrators) is with internet personalities who make money by demonising their political opponents and spreading hate, to gain attention. In the UK that would be the likes of Katie Hopkins or Owen Jones.
Plasmodesmata · 22/05/2022 19:33

But as I said on the other thread, wouldn't reporting it to Twitter and / or the police be a more appropriate response than publishing it widely? If genuine troll he's just fed it a lot of attention. If it's some poor woman who has been hacked he has now sent a million followers after her and potentially got her fired from her job.

tabbycatstripy · 22/05/2022 19:28

It was really bad.

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Somanysocks · 22/05/2022 19:24

No idea what was posted as am not on twitter but doesn't LOJ thrive on verbal fisticuffs?

Struggling to find sympathy.

tabbycatstripy · 22/05/2022 19:17

People don’t always post to “achieve” anything, Circumferences. It’s just a public interest thing.

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Circumferences · 22/05/2022 19:16

I don't think this thread is going to achieve anything, it's a bit pointless?

Someone hacked an account to make it look like people send homophobic tweets to OJ...

Just ignore them. It's all ridiculous.

Simonjt · 22/05/2022 19:13

Unfortunately its a standard thing, our rugby club is sent vile abuse on an almost daily basis. Online platforms are generally crap at blocking/deleting accounts of people who send abuse/threatening messages, and keyboard warriors enjoy taking advantage of that.

HollowTalk · 22/05/2022 19:10

Theeyeballsinthefuckingsky · 22/05/2022 18:57

obviously LOJ shouldn’t be sent homophobic abuse but somehow I doubt GC women are behind it

Exactly.